[Albion] Where is Moises going? (Chelsea - 14/08/2023)

[KZNSeagull]

Why? Can’t force someone to sign for them, if another club comes in and the player wants to go there (christ knows why) then you accept the bid.

Because we do things properly. We have accepted a bid from a team that did not illegally tap up our player and we should now give them enough time to come up with acceptable personal terms to Caicedo's agent. Until that process has broken down, which I do not believe it has yet, we do not accept anything else.

 

[The Rivet]

Why? Can’t force someone to sign for them, if another club comes in and the player wants to go there (christ knows why) then you accept the bid.

No one is suggesting we can force anything. However what we CAN force is honouring the auction and saying no to Chelsea.

 

[Mr deez]

Only if it matches or exceeds the current highest bid. That is now the market value. Why would you accept under the market value?

There's a few reasons - we set a midnight deadline so perhaps honour bound by that, plus Chelsea's approach is full of snidey, underhand, agent benefiting tactics that I'm sure we're not happy about.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Only if Liverpool walk away. If they are still interested then no, we shouldn't

Liverpool should walk away and throw as much of that £111m as needed at Bayern Munich and try to sign Kimmich.

If they don't sign a decent DM before the deadline they're in for a tricky season.

 

[trueblue]

i really hope we do the right thing - and honour the deadline and auction that Liverpool won. Not keen on either Liverpool or Chelsea but you cant set a deadline, have an auction and then start accepting bids after the auction has been won by someone else. TB needs to tell Moises (who is frankly now a major dickhead in my book) and his leeches that its Liverpool or he is going nowhere.

He’s a human, not a house. If Caicedo can’t agree terms with Liverpool, then the bid becomes meaningless. The chances at this point of us wanting to keep him, given all the disruption he’s caused and his agents would clearly continue to cause, has got to be close to zero.

 

[Nottseagull]

Lorra lorra pressure on Moises to be AMAZING from the get go, whichever Colin he rocks up at.

*Colin?? club

I'm wondering how many other people have had Moises changed to Noises.Please press the like button if you've had this.

 

[Vetinari]

£120m from Chavs and triple fracture for Caicedo vs Pool at the weekend.

£120m yes.....triple fracture NO! Horrible thought.Whatever has happened this summer it's not Caicedos fault.All he has done is be an amazing footballer and then been advised and courted by absolute bellends!

 

[fataddick]

Question: Should we accept Chelsea's £115m bid, if it were to be the case?

Maybe you accept Chelsea's £115m and give Liverpool £4m of it to apologise?

 

[fruitnveg]

Question: Should we accept Chelsea's £115m bid, if it were to be the case?

I wouldn't, but I can be a vindicitive prick at times.

If this agent is the cause of all the troubles, as rumour and common sense would seem to suggest; well, we already have a brilliant, record breaking offer accepted. Is it worth rewarding this outrageous behaviour for the sake of the value we bought Moises? I say no. If they don't make a truly earth-sharttering offer now, Chelsea can go hang.

 

[The Rivet]

He’s a human, not a house. If Caicedo can’t agree terms with Liverpool, then the bid becomes meaningless. The chances at this point of us wanting to keep him, given all the disruption he’s caused and his agents would clearly continue to cause, has got to be close to zero.

He is a commodity the minute he signs that contract. In reality he has no say where he goes under strict interpretation!

 

[The Rivet]

Maybe you accept Chelsea's £115m and give Liverpool £4m of it to apologise?

Why should we apologise, that is down to Chelsea. They agreed to the Auction, then reneged!

 

[trueblue]

Maybe you accept Chelsea's £115m and give Liverpool £4m of it to apologise?

In what way are we honour bound to Liverpool? We’ve simply given them permission to speak to a player we effectively ‘own’ and agreed the compensation. The rest is up to them.

 

[Bodian]

I Actually Anticipated this bidding war not between Liverpool and Chelsea but Arsenal and chelsea, that would've been spicy after Mudryk.

There's time yet!!

They will have been told in no uncertain terms that any bid below the Liverpool one will be rejected out of hand ?

But do they actually listen to what they are being told?

But his Agent did encourage Liverpool to make a bid.

From Dave Maddock (respected journalist in the North)

"But late into the night they received encouragement to make a formal offer from the player’s representatives"

Probably in order to force a higher bid from Chelsea, on which they will get a bigger cut.

 

[trueblue]

He is a commodity the minute he signs that contract. In reality he has no say where he goes under strict interpretation!

Sure, but we can’t force him to play to his best if he stays, particularly as the manager’s already made his feelings clear. No point watching his value diminish before the whole farce begins again in January.

 

[lawros left foot]

I don’t want to worry anybody, but I’ve just passed the training ground and I’m sure I saw Gazza with a four pack and a fishing rod outside

 

[The Rivet]

In what way are we honour bound to Liverpool? We’ve simply given them permission to speak to a player we effectively ‘own’ and agreed the compensation. The rest is up to them.

If you set up an auction with rules, then the players, Bayen, Pool and Chelsea agreed with the terms set. You honour the auction. Your suggestion that we disrespect Liverpool (all the while the bid is live) is abysmal.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Probably in order to force a higher bid from Chelsea, on which they will get a bigger cut.

So the agent manges to piss off us, Liverpool and Chelsea in the same transfer.

That's impressive.

 

[brighton_tom]

The tweets are so consistently one sided that this whole saga has been proof of how the agent/club fed bias works with these ITK twitter twats… not that we didn’t already know it. It’s just so barefaced these days.

 

[The Rivet]

Sure, but we can’t force him to play to his best if he stays, particularly as the manager’s already made his feelings clear. No point watching his value diminish before the whole farce begins again in January.

It wont diminish but his reputation will!

 

[fataddick]

In what way are we honour bound to Liverpool? We’ve simply given them permission to speak to a player we effectively ‘own’ and agreed the compensation. The rest is up to them.

Supposedly you held an auction with a fixed end time which they won. If you auction something on eBay and then refuse to send it to the winning bidder you will rightly get reported to eBay etc. You should at least pretend to send him to Anfield (mislabel the Evri parcel he's shipped in or something) before selling him to Chelsea.