nicko31
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Think 22 season start, earlier than that its a bonus.
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[Football] When will the Premier League play in fromnt of full houses again?
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oldboyroy
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Once everyone has been vaccinated I would imagine. Whether that's by start of new season remains to be seen but at current rate of rollout over 2 million a week then August is certainly possible.
It's a form of grooming and radicalisation, not entirely dissimilar to the way young people are brainwashed into joining terrorist organisations and the like. They might be slightly pre-disposed to some ideas, and these are then relentlessly probed and played upon by charlatans and dickheads to create their own private cult (almost always for their own self-enrichment or self-aggrandisement).
I actually think there is a concerted effort to not publish anything too positive at the moment (infection rates have stabilised/dropped, hospitalisation rates are plateauing in some areas, the vacc programme is, if anything, ramping up faster than planned) because the Gov don’t want to give the more moronic elements of the public any excuse to ignore restrictions - hence the seemingly negative news slant (accepting the death rates are appalling of course).
It’ll be a few weeks before this changes probably but at some point very soon the numbers will be undeniable and have to be reported.
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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I'm an optimist, it's true. And I don't think the government will be able to sell any form of lockdown on the basis that "there is nothing wrong at the moment and we don't think anything is going to go wrong in future, but if you could all live miserable lonely lives with no social interaction for another year just in case ..."
The vaccine will work. Back before the end of this season, hopefully.
The vaccine will work. Back before the end of this season, hopefully.
Neville's Breakfast
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The unknown unknown is the impact of the new variants. Hospitals have been reporting the incidence of younger people being admitted and these groups will probably not have been vaccinated by the Summer. Possible outcomes include the new variants being more dangerous to younger people, greater incidence of Long Covid and/or resistance to the vaccines. If there are further lockdowns it will be a combination of these factors not ‘just in case’ that will be the cause. All being well all we can be is ‘hopeful.’
crodonilson
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Agreed, this is why we must proceed with extreme caution and only lift measures as and when evidence means we can lift measures. Also worryingly we have a high proportion (over 40%) of BAME population who are at this stage unlikely to take the vaccine and these people are already disproportinately affected. Full stadiums means full buses and trains, full pubs, essentially normal life as it was in 2019. I think there will be a new normal for a while until we can be confident the percentage of people having taken the vaccine and the effectiveness of the vaccine has completely strangled the number of cases and hospital admissions and we won't be in view of this data until a few months after the whole vaccination of the adult population has taken place and no other variants that the vaccines do not work against have cropped up.
Neville's Breakfast
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I never quite know whether these seemingly serious posts of yours are actually very subtle comedy. I try to imagine the words delivered in a funny voice or accompanied by a scantily clad young lady. I still don’t know. Apologies if I am over thinking it.
Eh ?All the data is being reported DAILY. We'll know EXACTLY when and how rates of death, ICU, hospitalisation and infection are dropping and by how much (and where). We will reach various points, DURING the vaccination programme, when restrictions will be eased ,partly because the country is being strangled in the meantime. It's risk management - happy to be pulled up on this at a later date but I think as soon as there are meaningful drops in the numbers (and following a trend) and pressure on the NHS has eased we'll see very proactive reviews of the tiers on an ongoing basis. There is no chance we'll be waiting 'a few months after the whole of he adult population has been vaccinated'. Normality may be a way off, but I don't think 'near normality' will be.
dejavuatbtn
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If the vaccine gets rolled out before August then I would anticipate allowing people to attend matches subject to proof that they had been vaccinated, in which case we will know who the Albion deniers are. It won’t be a full house though due to these people and those who will continue to play it safe and avoid crowds (and I’m not going to blame them).
portslade seagull
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That's how I see it. Proof that you have had the vaccination will allow access to concerts and live sporting events. It looks like this will be the way my employer reopens the office's. So a fair few more month's at home cluttering the kitchen going stir crazy for me
nwgull
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Hospital admissions will plummet once all over 50s and susceptible people have been vaccinated, and this will be done by around April. Once over 60-70% of the population have had the vaccine, the infection rate will drop even without social distancing measures. I reckon we'll be at this level by the end of July.
So I reckon we'll be back in packed stadiums by autumn this year.
So I reckon we'll be back in packed stadiums by autumn this year.
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Under such a proposal, and with no plan to vaccinate children currently, kids wouldn't be able to go to football for a while (ever?) nor attend many other social events, nor travel. The same could be said for any that, for medical reasons are not able to receive the vaccine, ie not those who just don't want to.
I'm also not sure the club would want to (be able to?) take on the burden of validating up to 30,000 people, particularly given some may change game-by-game and if there is a rolling vaccination programme, say annually, it will remain an ongoing exercise as people get their next jab.
Kids will be exempt - they don’t get ill from it, and those adults attending will be vaccinated. Anyone vulnerable not attending will also have been vaccinated anyway so no risk of ‘kid to fan to non attendee’ transmission.
By the time we’re back, de facto pressure on the NHS will have eased significantly, so anyone unlucky enough to get seriously ill will be sure of treatment. I doubt the club will even need to check - vaxx numbers will be sufficiently high in % of the adult population terms) by then to allow things to happen.
Kids absolutely DO get ill from it, but in much smaller number, fortunately.
I wasn't saying that proof of vaccination would be required, nor that the Albion would validate that. I was countering the suggestion from those I quoted that proof of vaccination would be a mechanism used for football attendance and, by implication, other social activities.
I just don't see that as practical, nor fitting with the current government's generally libertarian stance.
I’m completely pro vaccination, but this is ridiculous.
You can’t force people to put something into their bodies.
I’m also not sure a football club should have any knowledge of someone’s medical history.
You are then onto the how long will it take, if you don’t get a booster every year are you then banned?
Very few kids get ill relative to the number adults, and even fewer get seriously ill (one report I read suggested no statistical difference in hospitalisation numbers between flu and Covid amongst U18s). They’ll be back at the football without being vaccinated.
That would certainly explain a few of our signings.