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What was the point?



Juan Albion

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Toronto arranged to play Bolton Wanderers and then fielded an extremely weak team. Of course they didn't warn the fans buying the tickets that there'd hardly be a single player they'd know - playing for their own team. How do you spell "rip off"? At least the journo wrote what I expect what all the fans in attendance were thinking. Why do teams rip off their own fans? Do they think they won't remember in future?

I do think, though, that if there is a player out there known simply as "Mista" then he belongs on the Gus Bus.


"What was the point?

Even the most die-hard Toronto FC fan had to be asking that question after watching the Reds battle to a dire and uneventful shootout loss against English Premiership side Bolton Wanderers in an international friendly Wednesday night.

The teams battled to a 1-1 draw after 90 minutes of regulation, before Gary Cahill scored the decisive penalty in the shootout and goalkeeper Jussi Jaaskelainen saved Oscar Cordan’s effort to lift Bolton to victory.

With nothing on the line, TFC fielded what could charitably be called their B team against the visitors from the northwest of England. None of the Major League Soccer club’s regular starters — including captain Dwayne De Rosario, designated player Julian de Guzman, central defenders Nana Attakora and Adrian Cann, and goalkeeper Stefan Frei — were even on the substitutes bench.

Instead, Toronto’s starting lineup featured two trialists (Mirko Medic and Drazen Vukovic), one youth academy member (Doneil Henry), and a host of senior team members (goalkeeper Jon Conway and rookie midfielder Nane Joseph foremost among them) who have barely seen any playing time this season.

Preki wasn’t making any apologies for it in the post-match news conference.

"We have a game at four o’clock on Saturday," he replied when asked why he fielded a makeshift team against Bolton.

Toronto has a hectic schedule coming up, with crucial MLS encounters against FC Dallas (July 24) and the Kansas City Wizards (July 31), and a CONCACAF Champions League qualifier against Honduran outfit Deportivo Motagua next Tuesday.

Preki has his priorities straight and wisely rested his starters for the tough slog ahead, not wanting to risk losing any of them to injury in a game that had no bearing on the MLS standings.

In light of Toronto’s aspirations of claiming its first playoff berth and qualifying for the group stage of the Champions League, Preki’s cautious approach was perfectly understandable.

But if you go to the trouble of bringing a top-tier club over from Europe, then the very least you can do is play your starters and take the game seriously, much like TFC did last summer when Real Madrid came to town.

Otherwise don’t bother lining up these exhibition matches, because to trot out a farce of a squad, as Toronto did on Wednesday, reduces such games to an exercise in pointlessness.

The Toronto coach said in the presser it was a "fun game" and it granted him the opportunity to look at some youth players.

The lone moment of inspiration from the Reds came just before the end of the first half, supplied by the team’s newcomers, former Valencia star Mista (making his team debut) and Brazilian Maicon Santos.

Largely ineffective through the opening 45 minutes, Mista floated a perfect cross from the left flank deep into the box where Santos nodded it past the reach of Jaaskelainen.

Preki was full of praise for Mista and Maicon, lauding them for their "perfect execution" on the sequence that led to the goal.

Maicon’s gorgeous goal cancelled out Matt Taylor’s effort for Bolton in the 28th minute, scored on a deflection off a shot by teammate Martin Petrov.

The introduction of youth academy forward Nicholas Lindsay in the second half gave Toronto a bit of a spark, but not enough to notch a second goal."
 




Nappy thrower

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Dec 17, 2009
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What is it with you and long posts?

I took one look at your thread and backed out instantly. I wonder how many others will do the same?

As for the thread title,it should be changed to...What is the point.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
32,236
Uffern
What's a designated player? Does Canadian football have a system were one player has to play well every game while the rest of the team is pony? It would be great for excuses. "Yeah, I know I missed three sitters but I wasn't the designated player this week so I can't be blamed."
 


BeepBeepImaJeep

Farewell and adieu....
Jul 5, 2010
96
Canada
I was there. People seemed to enjoy it. We got a look at our young kids. We're about to start our big drive to the playoffs.

fuckoff.
 


Juan Albion

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What is it with you and long posts?

Do you have attention deficit disorder or something? It wasn't a 'long post' - it was one news article. I'm afraid I don't worry too much about people who only read the Beano when I post something that I know will interest some on here. Some of us have been known to read things even longer than this sometimes.
 




Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
I was there. People seemed to enjoy it. We got a look at our young kids. We're about to start our big drive to the playoffs.

fuckoff.

I'm sure the TFC fans (seeing as we could have fun watching paint dry) would find some way to enjoy it - it can be enjoyable watching a team in the local park - but was it advertised as a reserve game? No, it wasn't, and as the report puts it, they put out a farce of a squad. I went to the first of these "Carlsberg Cup" games a couple of years ago against Pachuca and it was a 240km round trip for me to get there. It was hardly worth it.

I suspect Preki would have said no to playing this game if he'd been given the choice, but I bet MLSE probably saw yet another way to wring a few bucks from the fans.
 


BeepBeepImaJeep

Farewell and adieu....
Jul 5, 2010
96
Canada
Go to usector.ca or redpatchboys.ca - start a thread saying "We should have played our starters" and see what reactions you get. I bet you anything they would be more than pleased with who played tonight and would call you crazy for even suggesting we trot our tired starers out. Have you even watched our last couple games? In the last 20 minutes our guys are falling down all over the place cramping up.

A Toronto FC board is where this thread belongs as I doubt people give 2 shits about it here and I would love to see the responses you'd get from the locals.
 


Seagull64

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Juan Albion

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Go to usector.ca or redpatchboys.ca - start a thread saying "We should have played our starters" and see what reactions you get. I bet you anything they would be more than pleased with who played tonight and would call you crazy for even suggesting we trot our tired starers out. Have you even watched our last couple games? In the last 20 minutes our guys are falling down all over the place cramping up.

A Toronto FC board is where this thread belongs as I doubt people give 2 shits about it here and I would love to see the responses you'd get from the locals.

Where have I EVER suggested they play the starters? My whole point was it shouldn't have been played at all. "What's the point?" Geddit?
 


Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
Have you even watched our last couple games? In the last 20 minutes our guys are falling down all over the place cramping up.

Err, yes I saw them score in the last few minutes on Saturday (before doing their last minute collapse like they did all last season). Didn't you?
 












Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
32,236
Uffern
I note that none of the Canadian posters has answered my question and can explain what a "designated player" is. It's a term that will forever be a mystery of the Canadian wilds.
 


Juan Albion

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I note that none of the Canadian posters has answered my question and can explain what a "designated player" is. It's a term that will forever be a mystery of the Canadian wilds.

It's an MLS thing, not a Canadian thing. There is a salary cap for each team, and the squad's total salary has to be under that. But the team can 'designate' a player and most of his salary is excluded from that total. So you can go out and get yourself a star player, like LA got Beckham, without blowing your salary cap. That's a rough explanation.
 


Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
By the way, to put my annoyance in perspective, I should have mentioned the prices to watch this reserves game tonight. If you bought a ticket on Ticketmaster, they started at about £37 and rose to £245. Beepbeep might not have a problem with that, but I do, and so would my bank manager.
 
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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
32,236
Uffern
It's an MLS thing, not a Canadian thing. There is a salary cap for each team, and the squad's total salary has to be under that. But the team can 'designate' a player and most of his salary is excluded from that total. So you can go out and get yourself a star player, like LA got Beckham, without blowing your salary cap. That's a rough explanation.

That's truly bizarre. What's the point of a salary cap if it means that you can still buy expensive players?

Oh, those crazy Americans.
 




Juan Albion

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That's truly bizarre. What's the point of a salary cap if it means that you can still buy expensive players?

Oh, those crazy Americans.

Actually, it makes sense, really. They cannot pay all the players extortionate wages (and they know it) but they can compete for one or two real stars.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
32,236
Uffern
Actually, it makes sense, really. They cannot pay all the players extortionate wages (and they know it) but they can compete for one or two real stars.

But how does it make sense? Let's say revenues for a club are $20m (I've no idea on figures in the MSL, these are for example) and the salary cap means they can't spend more than $12m. If they then get a superstar player for $8m, they're spending their entire revenue on player salaries. How has the salary cap helped that team not overspend?
 


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