What an incredible article.

[Gritt23]

You'd think Millwall was some lovely, friendly, welcoming day out.

I'm not jumping to defend the day out in Croydon, but this is quite unbeliveable.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/9393431.What_is_it_that_makes_Millwall_and_Palace_fans_so_different_/?ref=mr

 

[Bold Seagull]

You'd think Millwall was some lovely, friendly, welcoming day out.

I'm not jumping to defend the day out in Croydon, but this is quite unbeliveable.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/9393431.What_is_it_that_makes_Millwall_and_Palace_fans_so_different_/?ref=mr

The stuff about 'ultras' is surprisingly accurate for any club though...

 

[brightn'ove]

Palace fans are like a teenage boy at the cross roads of becoming a man – awkward and uncomfortable in their own skin.

Selhurst Park has gone from a morgue to a circus.

At least Glaziers was significant, Eagles just seems like a wild stab at something interesting.

Conversely, Palace’s insistence they are a big club surely demonstrates desperation for recognition given all of their Premier League forays have ended in immediate relegation.

 

[Brovion]

You'd think Millwall was some lovely, friendly, welcoming day out.

I'm not jumping to defend the day out in Croydon, but this is quite unbeliveable.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/...illwall_and_Palace_fans_so_different_/?ref=mr

Blimey, I think he's pretty spot on myself. He calls their bottle throwers 'morons' (not trying to justify it) and whilst he does compare them to a 'family' he does admit that they're 'not the ideal family'. And the stuff about Palace and the Ultras is 100% accurate.

 

[Gritt23]

Blimey, I think he's pretty spot on myself. He calls their bottle throwers 'morons' (not trying to justify it) and whilst he does compare them to a 'family' he does admit that they're 'not the ideal family'. And the stuff about Palace and the Ultras is 100% accurate.

I really don't see there being and great difference between days out at Millwall and Palace, whereas he makes it sound like the difference between a Royal Garden Party, and a night in Belmarsh.

 

[Brovion]

I really don't see there being and great difference between days out at Millwall and Palace, whereas he makes it sound like the difference between a Royal Garden Party, and a night in Belmarsh.

It's funny, but coming from that way (Purley) I'd say there IS a big difference between going to Selhurst Park and going to The New Den. Selhurst Park is in a much nicer area and there are some quite posh areas not too far away. The Den in comparison is surrounded by acres of grot. It's only people from leafy Sussex who think Selhurst Park is in a 'rough' area!

Plus the article seemed to be more on the difference between the fans, Millwall call them 'Nigels' for a reason.

 

[looney]

You'd think Millwall was some lovely, friendly, welcoming day out.

I'm not jumping to defend the day out in Croydon, but this is quite unbeliveable.

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/9393431.What_is_it_that_makes_Millwall_and_Palace_fans_so_different_/?ref=mr

I thought it was hilarious and had got them nailed.

 

[Surf's Up]

This article is a very accurate description of Palarse the club, their environs and their fans - superb stuff. Not too sure about the slightly rose-tinted view of Millwall though - I've been to the old Den and the new Den a good few times over the years and its been like the wild west every time!! A very dysfunctional family well known to the police, the courts, the local nick and social services may be a better way of describing them!!

 

[Gritt23]

Not too sure about the slightly rose-tinted view of Millwall though - I've been to the old Den and the new Den a good few times over the years and its been like the wild west every time!! A very dysfunctional family well known to the police, the courts, the local nick and social services may be a better way of describing them!!

Exactly. I couldn't believe he was talking about the Millwall I've been to so many times. To suggest that Palace fans are rather "confrontational" is one thing, but coming from a Millwall fan, was just ludicrous.

 

[Napper]

Spot on article

 

[mona]

Good article. I thought it was pretty accurate about both clubs.

 

[Gullys Cats]

Palace fans are like a teenage boy at the cross roads of becoming a man – awkward and uncomfortable in their own skin.

 

[Mickey Pearce's Hat]

I think a couple of you failed English comprehension...as a lot have pointed out on here.

It clearly says not an ideal family. He mentions 'inner city grit'. And says the bottle throwers are morons. It's a Millwall blog, he's not going to have the same views that people from leafy Sussex have on Millwall...is he. The White Hawk would be considered a very soft area for an estate in that part of London.

Also, the whole point of the article is that Millwall have an identity, which is alluded to as being a bit aggressive etc, as do Charlton, which is a bit happy clappy. His point is that both are happy with this.

What are Palace? As he says...the Ultras are both happy clappy AND confrontational (when the police are protecting them). It really is a set of fans with no sense of their identity.

Think it is 100% spot on.

Hence the MASSIVE response. If a kid calls you a peudo in the streets you laugh...cos, you just think 'bless, the little idiot trying to get a reaction'. If someone mocks you for ending up in a dead end job and you have a dead end job you go mad...cos the truth hurts a lot.

They've gone mad!! One has called for the EDITOR to be SACKED!!

 

[Mickey Pearce's Hat]

In summary..

With Millwall and Charlton you get what it says on the tin. One is a rough and ready club, the other a happy clappy one. Neither try and being something they are not.

Let it be noted, as much as Palace give it (or try to) the big un to Brighton they have NEVER EVER shown at The Den, or at Upton Park or at Stamford Bridge, or White Hat Lane, or Ninian Park, or Elland Road etc etc etc...

 

[paulie]

In summary..

Let it be noted, as much as Palace give it (or try to) the big un to Brighton they have NEVER EVER shown at The Den, or at Upton Park or at Stamford Bridge, or White Hat Lane, or Ninian Park, or Elland Road etc etc etc...

Yes, true - you can also change Palace to Brighton, and Brighton to Palace, in that sentence and it would still be true. That's why outsiders find the mutual loathing a little perplexing.

 

[Brovion]

Yes, true - you can also change Palace to Brighton, and Brighton to Palace, in that sentence and it would still be true. That's why outsiders find the mutual loathing a little perplexing.

Not just outsiders ...

 

[leigull]

Don't forget his take on Brighton:

Away fans need to up their chanting game at The Den From News Shopper)

 

[Mickey Pearce's Hat]

Again. I think that was misunderstood.

He makes the point about modern football fans- the title makes it sound like a pop at just Brighton fans. We were all expecting Brighton to bring the usually very 'up for it' crowd they have in the past to The Den. Especially as it was a night game. Instead it was a bit of a let down (from both sides).

Perhaps football has just moved on...and we (Millwall) need to move with the times? I know the whole area around the ground is being re-generated. Sad though - I liked the old hostile crowds of days of yore, and Brighton always contributed to that at The Den.

Think it just laments the fact Brighton are even singing generic chants now too.

 

[leigull]

Just surprised me that he seemed to think Millwall are constant singers of witty songs. Instead of actually just frothing at the mouth (well maybe that was just that one pyscho woman) and going "MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL" every now and then