Wenger: the beginning of the end?

[Buffalo Seagull]

Bloody Nora. What is it with some people?

I know...if you can't trust the internet then who can you trust?

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

What a depressing thread. Don't give a jot about Arsenal but if the reason for Arsenals lack of success is being outspent by other teams .... that makes me very sad. Of course I know the spending power of chelsea and city bit you'd still hope there is more to it than just LS and D.

Sent from my field radio

 

[e77]

His problem is his global scouting network has been copied by other clubs and when he does find a top player, the (even) bigger clubs come and buy them.

Also, unlike Ferguson, he never changes his back room team.

 

[Scoffers]

Piers Morgan is now openly calling for Arsene Wenger to go. Who am I to argue?

 

[cheshunt seagull]

A lot of very unhappy Arsenal fans where I live and the situation isn't helped by Tottenham's improvement. Comparing the sides, how many Arsenal players would actually get into the Spurs team?.....Van Persie, Vermaelen maybe?...Walcott and Arteta on the bench?

 

[Deleted member 18477]

It's not just Wenger's fault. The board have not put enough pressure on him to succeed, they've already announced a financial plan for next season if they were not to finish top 4. Just sounds like they lack ambition.

maybe they will have a re-think if even more fans don't renew memberships etc. they lost a lot this year as it is!

 

[Deleted member 18477]

A lot of very unhappy Arsenal fans where I live and the situation isn't helped by Tottenham's improvement. Comparing the sides, how many Arsenal players would actually get into the Spurs team?.....Van Persie, Vermaelen maybe?...Walcott and Arteta on the bench?

i'd say:

friedel

sagna - king - kaboul - vermaelen

modric - parker - wilshere

van der vaart - van persie - bale


subs: scezney, dawson/koscielney, walker, song, lennon, adebayor, chamberlain

 

[drew]

Wenger is too stubborn to change. He knows he balls it up with the substitution but won't admit in hindsight it was an error. He has had money to spend but refuses to do it, Cahill being a fine example of a player that he could have had but claimed was overpriced. The next manager that comes in will have a field day. Money to spend and no recent success. Compare that to the guy that replaces Fergusson!

 

[seagullondon]

Piers Morgan is now openly calling for Arsene Wenger to go. Who am I to argue?

the beginning of the end when that **** is calling for you to go

 

[Scoffers]

Someone should do a mach-up of all of Wengers 101 pathetic excuses for losing a game.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

I thought he played quite well today actually, I'm not his biggest fan but I thought he looked much better than usual on the ball and though he missed (badly) his only shooting chance, I thought it was a better performance than usual. I think he's going to be much better off up front, when he finally matures. I think when he's 24/25 he needs to be one of the best English wingers/forwards. If he's not, he's the highest profile flop I can think of, considering his fee as a kid. Even Southampton paid a fee to sign him into their academy, he was with Swindon before. £25,000 I think they bought him for, at 13 I think? Or 10, one of the two.

Was it Swindon where he started?...Had a feeling it was Reading.

 

[User removed 4]

I don't think they have the money to buy players that everyone thinks they have.

They got burnt with the Highbury development and the Fabregas money seems to be stuck in the club somewhere

i dont think they got burnt, they just seem to have a sound financial plan, much as i detest arsenal, they are being sensible with their money, they have no rich russian benefactor, and wenger has done very well on limited resources.

 

[Randsta]

If he'd just buy some good players they would be title contenders! Spend spend spend!!!

 

[matthew]

He's spent no money over his 15 years and managed to keep them in the top four plus win a few trophies a while back. In comparison with the clubs around them which spend f*** loads and don't get top four he's done pretty f***ing well - read somewhere that they're 17th in money spent over the past 10 years in the premier league. Considering that most clubs spending such money would be scrapping for relegation rather than the top 4.

But if they do have money to spend which no one is really sure of, it's a huge mistake that he's not spending it.

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Was it Swindon where he started?...Had a feeling it was Reading.

Nope, it was deffinitely Swindon.

 

[Pavilionaire]

i dont think they got burnt, they just seem to have a sound financial plan, much as i detest arsenal, they are being sensible with their money, they have no rich russian benefactor, and wenger has done very well on limited resources.

Eh? Usmanov - a rich Russian oligarch - owns 29% of the club while a rich American tycoon in Kroenke owns the rest.

I agree that Wenger's stubbornness will be his downfall. The panic buys of Mertesacker and Arteta in the last window were uncharacteristic. They're 10 points off Spurs, 5 off Chelsea and Champions League football seems unlikely.

I think the Arsenal board will need to bite the bullet and sack him. Spurs fans would hate that; the way things are going Spurs will be top 4 year in year out and they'll have a new ground in the near future. Alternatively, Arsenal could bring in a new man, blow Tottenham out of the water financially and reclaim that Champions League place before Spurs have the ground and financial clout to compete.

 

[APACHE]

My fellow supporters would you do this, the games at 1-1 and you're getting on top, the one player who's showing a way to win the game for you and causing the opposition all sorts of problems is then subbed and his replacement is known for his lack of effort. Man Utd must have sensed that the way to win was attack down Arsenal's left, everyone could see it except Wenger it's not the first time he's done this. Many Arsenal fans I know think it's time he went, they just don't think he can take the club forward.

 

[Storer 68]

Looks like the Arsenal board have placed a higher priority on paying off the new stadium than investing in the team.

and now every one else is aware of the French football academy and clubs' scouting network is far more efficicnent than it was 15 years ago

 

[Storer 68]

i dont think they got burnt, they just seem to have a sound financial plan, much as i detest arsenal, they are being sensible with their money, they have no rich russian benefactor, and wenger has done very well on limited resources.

Eh? and Eh again
Without wishing to steal Paviliionaire;s thunder , that is just sO worng.

Alisher Burkhanovich Usmanov (born 9 September 1953, Chust, Namangan Province, Uzbek SSR, USSR) is an Uzbek-born Russian businessman. According to the 2011 edition of Forbes magazine, the oligarch is one of Russia's richest men, with a fortune estimated at US$17.7 billion, and the world's 35th richest person.[1]
He has accrued his wealth from mining, lumber and investment.[2] He is the majority shareholder of Metalloinvest, a Russian industrial conglomerate, which he founded to manage Gazprom's metals interests.[3][dead link]

He is also a co-owner of the media holding which comprises 7TV and Muz-TV federal television channels and 33 regional TV broadcasting stations. Usmanov is also a major shareholder in London's Arsenal Football Club

Makes Tony Bloom look like a two bob card player down the pub

 

[User removed 4]

Eh? and Eh again
Without wishing to steal Paviliionaire;s thunder , that is just sO worng.

Alisher Burkhanovich Usmanov (born 9 September 1953, Chust, Namangan Province, Uzbek SSR, USSR) is an Uzbek-born Russian businessman. According to the 2011 edition of Forbes magazine, the oligarch is one of Russia's richest men, with a fortune estimated at US$17.7 billion, and the world's 35th richest person.[1]
He has accrued his wealth from mining, lumber and investment.[2] He is the majority shareholder of Metalloinvest, a Russian industrial conglomerate, which he founded to manage Gazprom's metals interests.[3][dead link]

He is also a co-owner of the media holding which comprises 7TV and Muz-TV federal television channels and 33 regional TV broadcasting stations. Usmanov is also a major shareholder in London's Arsenal Football Club

Makes Tony Bloom look like a two bob card player down the pub

would you throw hundreds of millions into a company that someone else owns 71 % of ?