Well done Mr Perry

[mona]

Why is it so hard for YOU to understand that some (not all) STH consider themselves to be a superior race to those of us who watch the away games.

I didn't realise that STHs had been banned from going away.

 

[portlock seagull]

STH should get first shout on any HOME cup games. Those who attend regular AWAY games should get first shout on any AWAY cup games

When are you high almighty AMS fans going to get it into your heads that there might NOT be any away games to play if we STH didn't cough up in February / March to ensure the clubs survival each season. That's a pretty strong case, simple business practice, for giving priority to STHs. FFS

 

[portlock seagull]

Quite a lot of it. I'd quite gladly have a MINORITY if whinging STH's f*** off and let a new breed come through who can accept the fact that their season ticket counts for HOME MATCHES ONLY.

There is no REGULAR new breed or we'd all be fighting to get into Withdean. Haven't you seen the attendances? Jesus......

 

[Safeway]

there might NOT be any away games to play if we STH didn't cough up in February / March to ensure the clubs survival each season.

You honestly believe that to be true?

 

[Tom Bombadil]

You honestly believe that to be true?

Why do you think our renewals are so bloody early if not for the fact we have a horendous cashflow problem?

 

[pasty]

Exactly, a decline in ST sales this spring is awful timing re: Falmer decision. Oh how it could be so different if our ticketing policy was in order. The Club really cannot afford to piss off STH. Quite literally.

I'm not sure the club pissing people off is a big reason for declining ST sales. When we first moved back home to Withdean I bought a season ticket to guarantee a seat for every game through out the season. That was the only reason I had a ST.

The only reason I didn't renew this season (the first since we moved back) is simply that getting a ticket for a home game is now not a problem.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

Why can't you understand that some sad b*stards watch BHA home and away?
Home fans and away fans aren't separate breeds.

To be fair the THEM referred to the ST constantly moaning on here.

 

[Nemesis]

some (not all) STH consider themselves to be a superior race to those of us who watch the away games.

Bollocks! You mean we're not? f*** it then-I'm not renewing now.

 

[Safeway]

Why do you think our renewals are so bloody early if not for the fact we have a horendous cashflow problem?

I'd say it speaks about the way the club is run than anything else. There are far worse off clubs than us in the league and I'm sure they don't set season ticket prices and renewal deadlines before they even know what division the team will be in next season.

I'm sure the reason for such early renewals is what the club say, but I'm saying it's a totally avoidable situation - avoidable by properly implementing other parts of the business plan, like getting replica kits in the club shop before pre-season.

 

[El Presidente]

That's a pretty strong case, simple business practice, for giving priority to STHs. FFS

You do have priority. You are guaranteed a ticket for a home cup game, and have 50% of the tickets for the away tie, plus a chance to get them via AMS membership too.

What you are saying is that you should be guaranteed a ticket for away games too.

 

[portlock seagull]

Happy to tell them myself however judging by the other comments I have received from other STH that missed out a fair few letters will be going to MP.

Indeed, already ghosted mine as have the other 5 season ticket holders I've sat with since Gillingham days (where we also had season tickets despite knowing we'd only be able to attend 50% of games) who also missed out. The burning issue here is about financial loyalty, and many STH's have received a slap in the face for showing it - so why bother next year?

Perry's scored a massive own-goal. It's not as if £600 is a small amount for 3rd tier footy in a rented nature reserve with no roof or atmosphere. STH = 1st priority for games, end of. Very few withdean-boycotters must invest the same amount of money in the club via the shop. Besides, I also 'invest' that way too as does every STH who sits in the south stand around me - or is someone going to tell me their shirts etc are knitted? If the mouthy AMS persons on here think STH can be dismissed as 'moaners' in this respect, well I very much doubt any of them have risen to a senior position in any business.....

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

When will he realise that STH always have and always should have priority over match tickets

f*** sake.


We do.

For ... HOME ... games ...


Where's that banging-head-against-wall smiley?

 

[SI 4 BHA]

If the ticket policey gets changed other people will miss out on tickets and there be a huge moanfest from them! Fairest way to do it was reward both home and away 50% each. Not the clubs thought that people could be arsed to put there application through the club shop on a monday night

You would have a valid arguement if we were taking over 2500 fans to every away game but we are actually taking a few hundred and a fair number of them are STH. So what has actaully happened with West ham tickets is that a large number of STH wont get a ticket but perhaps something like 1500 AMS who probably haven't seen a game this season and have contributed nothing to the club except a tenner 5 years ago will get a ticket. Absolute f***ing madness.

Spent Xmas with my bro, a Wycombe STH, when I tried to explain that people who might not have seen us play for years get priority over STH, he thought I must have misunderstood how the system works. I couldn't get him to believe this was actually the case!

Ps. As a STH, I have actually got a WH ticket so no personal axe to grind this time.

 

[Nemesis]

You would have a valid arguement if we were taking over 2500 fans to every away game but we are actually taking a few hundred and a fair number of them are STH. So what has actaully happened with West ham tickets is that a large number of STH wont get a ticket but perhaps something like 1500 AMS who probably haven't seen a game this season and have contributed nothing to the club except a tenner 5 years ago will get a ticket. Absolute f***ing madness.

Sums up precisely why a lot of people are unhappy about the allocation. It isn't hard to understand and STH's do have a case-as explained above.

For the record, I didn't apply for WHU tickets so have no personal axe to grind either.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

I'd say it speaks about the way the club is run than anything else. There are far worse off clubs than us in the league and I'm sure they don't set season ticket prices and renewal deadlines before they even know what division the team will be in next season.

I'm sure the reason for such early renewals is what the club say, but I'm saying it's a totally avoidable situation - avoidable by properly implementing other parts of the business plan, like getting replica kits in the club shop before pre-season.

But the cashflows aren't likely to be comparable. If you get 1000 season ticket holders to renew April thats £450,000 pounds in the bank with the associated outflows being 3 to 15 months in the future.

If we sell 1000 shirts we will generate approx £37,000, but we'll have to pay for them (we'll get credit but I'm guessing that's a couple of months at the most) so if we pay £10 per item that £10, 000 out almost immediately, and that's ignoring the fact we'll have to buy stock to keep in the shop.

 

[SI 4 BHA]

With 5000 WH tickets available and 4000 STH, assuming 10% of STH didn't take up there ticket, all STH who wanted a WH ticket get one, leaving around 1400 for AMS which should have been enough to cover the non STH away fans this season.

I'm sorry, I just don't get it that a few of you who don't bother going to home games, theres plenty of room now you know, and take in a hand full of away games, allegedly, think you deserve any kind of priority over those who pay up front to sit in the rain at Withdean.

 

[dougdeep]

But the cashflows aren't likely to be comparable. If you get 1000 season ticket holders to renew April thats £450,000 pounds in the bank with the associated outflows being 3 to 15 months in the future.

If we sell 1000 shirts we will generate approx £37,000, but we'll have to pay for them (we'll get credit but I'm guessing that's a couple of months at the most) so if we pay £10 per item that £10, 000 out almost immediately, and that's ignoring the fact we'll have to buy stock to keep in the shop.

Good point, well made.

 

[Safeway]

With 5000 WH tickets available and 4000 STH, assuming 10% of STH didn't take up there ticket, all STH who wanted a WH ticket get one

Which is exactly why any STH who didn't get a ticket has got absolutely no-one to blame but themself for not getting their arse in gear.

 

[jakes right boot]

Only 50% were allocated to STH therfore 2500 for 4000?

 

[Ian Bairds Fist]

Why is it so hard for them to understand?

It's easier to make a commitment to watching the Albion at home(Assuming 95% of ST are local) than it is to watching them away.

And how do you know who the people are that go to EVERY away game as opposed to the people who last saw BHA away at Spurs? You cant. Idea closed.