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[Politics] Was the US election rigged?



kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it's unquestionable that there were some very strange voting patterns in the 2024 US Election with, for example, many voters choosing Trump as President but otherwise voting Democrat on their ballot papers.

This article is a fascinating and incredibly deep dive into the tech changes which were made just prior to the election, involving vote-counting software, Planatir and Musk's Starlink, that would have directly enabled the manipulation of votes.

Do I believe the US Election was fixed? It wouldn't surprise me.

 






Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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It’s a well written deep dive but it’s hard to unpack the truth from conspiracy theory here as to whether it was used in the 2024 election.

The fact that technologically, it is even possible to ‘fix’ the outcome of elections from space and Musk and Peter Thiel are up to their necks in that capability is chilling enough though for me not to dismiss it as ‘sour-grapes thinking’.
 




Comrade Sam

Comrade Sam
Jan 31, 2013
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Walthamstow
Ultimately millions of Americans are struggling and blamed the Democrats. It is no different to the anger that drives people to vote Reform. Years of neglect and running down of communities has left people despairing of mainstream politics and devoid of real solutions. Bombarded by billionaire propaganda they vote for racist self interested twats.
 








BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Spending four years banging on about a stolen election is certainly good cover for doing the same.

It wouldn't surprise me. I'll read the article soon.
 




Happy Exile

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There were concerns raised rapidly after the election. Some elements were debunked (rightly) but the baby was thrown out with the bath water which led to other quite serious discrepancies being overlooked https://www.planetcritical.com/p/election-fraud-debunked

Serious, rational, expert people with a lot to lose and nothing to gain have been warning for months that the US is sleepwalking into an authoritarian dictatorship facilitated by the money of big tech. They should probably be listened to.
 




Zeberdi

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Oct 20, 2022
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There were concerns raised rapidly after the election. Some elements were debunked (rightly) but the baby was thrown out with the bath water which led to other quite serious discrepancies being overlooked https://www.planetcritical.com/p/election-fraud-debunked

Serious, rational, expert people with a lot to lose and nothing to gain have been warning for months that the US is sleepwalking into an authoritarian dictatorship facilitated by the money of big tech. They should probably be listened to.
Bells ringing about Musk’s interference in Europe too.

Taken together with @Kevo’s post, is it any wonder that conspiracy theorists talk about ‘new world orders’ and shadow cabals of multi-billionaires being the ruling powers behind the ‘throne’?
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Any electronic voting is, by default, open to manipulation if someone has access to the base code. It's much harder to right an election with a pencil and some paper.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Any electronic voting is, by default, open to manipulation if someone has access to the base code. It's much harder to right an election with a pencil and some paper.
Somebody's clearly not heard of rubbers. :lolol:


Seriously though, I'm inclined to agree, although there's plenty of stories of ballot stuffing or ballot boxes going missing from places without electronic voting that suggest the wider issues around corruption are more important than the specific method used for voting.
 








spence

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Oct 15, 2014
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No it wasn't but the 2020 was. 4am lorry dumps. 80 million votes where did they go in the 2024 election? Biden got more votes than Obama ?
Trump increased his votes and the democrats knew they had rigged the 2020 election. Failed impeachments, failed J6, failed raids, failed banning Trump from the ballot, failed assinations, failed law suits, swapping leaders close to election., fake polls. They threw everything at President Trump.
Covid protected the shenanigans that went on. The Trump team employed many more people to watch the ballot count this time around.
Maga absolutely destroyed Harris and she left early that night. Red states got redder and blue states actually went for Trump. He made inroads in some blue states.
The midterms will see the GOP crush it. Americans don't like the shit that is happening in California. Wait and see
Trump's approval rating is excellent. Not that Maga voters trust MSM.
 
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Zeberdi

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No it wasn't but the 2020 was. 4am lorry dumps. 80 million votes where did they go in the 2024 election? BIiden got more votes than Obama ?
Trump increased his votes and the democrats knew they had rigged the 2020 election. Failed impeachments, failed J6, failed raids, failed banning Trump from the ballot, failed assinations, failed law suits, swapping leaders close to election., fake polls. They threw everything at President Trump.
Covid protected the shenanigans that went on. The Trump team employed many more people to watch the ballot count.
Maga absolutely destroyed Harris and she left early that night. Red states got redder and blue states actually went for Trump. He made inroads in some blue states.
The midterms will see the GOP crush it. Americans don't like the shit that is happening in California. Wait and see
Trump's approval rating is excellent. Not that Maga voters trust MSM.
So what you are saying is that the system is fraudulent but only when a Democratic President gets elected? ???
 


spence

Trump is back
Oct 15, 2014
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Crawley
I read something a few weeks ago which led me to believe digital interference had taken place, possibly by Russia. It focused on voting patterns in the swing States, all of which were won by Trump and with a margin over the threshold for a recount. I think it is more likely than not.
If you believe that drivel. All swing states were controlled by democrats previously.
 


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