Was the 1969 Moonlanding fake?

[Brovion]

Will all people who think the moon landings are faked please send me your bank details. NASA are going to kill you all for blowing their secret but if you give me all your money they won't be able to find you.

I'm with US Seagull. If you believe they were faked you are ignorant and gullible past the point of stupidity. Hopefully though most of you aren't old enough to vote and when you leave primary school you'll stop believing every attention-seeking moron who comes along. Like all these myths (US Government caused 9/11, the IRA is a branch of the British government. etc) there is an tiny element of circumstantial evidence that apparently supports the case but the most cursory of examinations proves it's wrong.

PS - who faked the dinasours?

 

[Albion Dan]

of course they did it.

and did it again and again.

conspiracies really piss me off get a life

Im sure there was only ever one landing to the moon?

 

[Brovion]

Im sure there was only ever one landing to the moon?

No, there were several, 3 from memory but I could be wrong. Plus Apollo 13 which never got there.

 

[Hungry Joe.]

The programme last night was compelling in it's evidence that it was faked. To the list below the official NASSA response was "there are so many holes in these arguments but I'm not going to tell you what they are" (or words to that effect)

No blast craters
No dust on landing feet
Doctored photos
Multiple light source shaddows
Amazingly well framed photos taken by Astronauts with helmets on with cameras strapped to their chests
Many suspicious deaths of people involved in the projects
Astonauts who returned with no health problems after travelling through radiation fields that would fry you without 6ft thick lead suits
The Russians have never tried it
No-one has tried it since

There are probably more that I've forgotten. None were debunked by the NASSA official. To believe that the US Government wouldn't con people is naieve. I don't know for sure but I wasn't given any counter arguments. Perhaps those slating the conspiracy theorists could post some here.

 

[lincs seagull]

No, there were several, 3 from memory but I could be wrong. Plus Apollo 13 which never got there.

fully right the american public got bored of it all and worried about the expense so moon landings where halted.

not because the local rags photography person had another engagement on the grassy knowl to help with JFK

 

[Brovion]

The programme last night was compelling in it's evidence that it was faked. To the list below the official NASSA response was "there are so many holes in these arguments but I'm not going to tell you what they are" (or words to that effect)

No blast craters
No dust on landing feet
Doctored photos
Multiple light source shaddows
Amazingly well framed photos taken by Astronauts with helmets on with cameras strapped to their chests
Many suspicious deaths of people involved in the projects
Astonauts who returned with no health problems after travelling through radiation fields that would fry you without 6ft thick lead suits
The Russians have never tried it
No-one has tried it since

There are probably more that I've forgotten. None were debunked by the NASSA official. To believe that the US Government wouldn't con people is naieve. I don't know for sure but I wasn't given any counter arguments. Perhaps those slating the conspiracy theorists could post some here.

But that's the point, short of going back there there isn't any concrete evidence that they DID take place, certainly nothing that would convince people who want to disbelieve it. However the evidence that they DIDN'T is just circumstantial - and some of that is crap. I (like every one else on this thread) am not an expert but I guess the radiation field for example would apply to almost all missions above the stratosphere, or where they all faked as well? Perhaps the world really IS flat and the aliens who were killed at Roswell were going to expose it. C'mon Darren, I didn't have you down as gullible.

 

[REDLAND]

Absolutly FAKE !!

 

[Brovion]

PS - Where DID they land if it wasn't the moon because the rockets certainly took off - there's enough evidence for that to convince even the most wilful sceptic.

 

[REDLAND]

PS - Where DID they land if it wasn't the moon because the rockets certainly took off - there's enough evidence for that to convince even the most wilful sceptic.

Dunno mate no ones ever told me the truth !!

 

[Tom Bombadil]

This is the sort of rubbish believed by people who think that aliens built the pyramids. All this stuff is based on junk science and misinterpretation.

 

[Hungry Joe.]

I'm not convinced either way Brovian but based on the programme last night I can see why people believe the conspiracy theory.

The points you've raised are fair. The radiation belt doesn't exist in the southern hemisphere near space region. All other manned missions have been in this area. The conspiracy theorists believe that they astronauts did blast off and then orbitted the Earth for 8 days. The filming they think took place in the Nevada Desert. It's similarities to the Moon scape are well known.

 

[REDLAND]

Nasa's grant for landing on the moon in the 60's was 30million pounds, that was worth EVEN more 35 years ago !!

Wsie UP Suckers you know it was faked

 

[Brovion]

I'm not convinced either way Brovian but based on the programme last night I can see why people believe the conspiracy theory.

The points you've raised are fair. The radiation belt doesn't exist in the southern hemisphere near space region. All other manned missions have been in this area. The conspiracy theorists believe that they astronauts did blast off and then orbitted the Earth for 8 days. The filming they think took place in the Nevada Desert. It's similarities to the Moon scape are well known.

How were the broadcasts on the journey to the moon faked? If all they were doing was orbiting the earth they would have come from different points. Why did no one else pick up the rocket orbiting? Both the Russians and the Chinese had the technology (to say nothing og the British and French) as it was how they tracked potential ICBMs.

So was it faked by NASA or the US Govt? Even you unbelievers aren't sure, Phaedrus says it was done by the US Govt (presumably for Cold War propaganda purposes) and Redland says it was done by NASA to protect their budget. And why do it three or more times? Surely once was enough?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I certainly don't believe Tintin landed on the moon.

 

[pasty]

The stuff the conspiricy theorists come out with is very convincing, and this is compounded for me by the lack of specific responses by NASA. Nothing will ever be proved however until, like they said closing the programme last night, either a maned mission goes back, or a powerful enough telescope is made to see any relics left behind by the alleged landing party.

 

[Easy 10]

Are we still arguing about this ?

For gods SAKE, you only have to watch the opening scene of Independence Day to know it's not fake. Jerry Bruckheimer filmed the opening sequences to his acclaimed blockbuster from the surface of the Moon, showing the "stiff" flag, and focussing closely on the footprints left in the dust.

What MORE proof do you people need ?

 

[Hungry Joe.]

Good points Brovian and I don't know the answers. I'm not sure as I said but if it was a conspiracy it would have had to be between NASSA, the US Govt, the CIA and FBI to keep it all hushed up this long.

Unlike most consiracy theories I think this one holds weight as there is a clear motive; the Cold War Space Race you allude to.

 

[Fluffster]

What i've always wondered is that if Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon, who took the picture of him taking that first step?!

 

[GUNTER]

Yes it was fake. We all know it is made of green cheese and there is a man that lives in it!

 

[Hungry Joe.]

Part of the problem is looking at those events from todays more rational perspective. It is impossible for any of us to imagine the fear and paranoia that existed in 1950's & 60's America and the lengths that drove people to.