[Brighton] Was it a penalty?

[POSKETT AT THE VALLEY]

Let’s move onto the Villa game.

 

[Bozza]

I can see the studs/sleeve bit and am not so sure now, but I'll leave my vote where it is mainly because HT thinks otherwise.

I don't know either.

For me there's clear contact that seems to be initiated by Mitoma's slide. Whilst waiting for the on-pitch kerfuffle to play out, I whipped out my phone to see what was being said on the BBC live text commentary and, on there, they seemed to be pretty convinced it was not a penalty.

But if the shirts were the other way round, I do think I'd feel hard done by if we had missed out on a penalty for that.

 

[Eeyore]

I don't know either.

For me there's clear contact that seems to be initiated by Mitoma's slide. Whilst waiting for the on-pitch kerfuffle to play out, I whipped out my phone to see what was being said on the BBC live text commentary and, on there, they seemed to be pretty convinced it was not a penalty.

But if the shirts were the other way round, I do think I'd feel hard done by if we had missed out on a penalty for that.

There would be OUTRAGE...

I didn't think it was a penalty myself. One of the angle clearly puts it in doubt.

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

I thought the original on-field decision was correct.

From the replays, which I have watched a fair bit, it’s clear Mitoma completely misses both player and ball as he slides in….BUT his trailing arm which is behind him does hook the Forest player’s foot. This is quite clear. I’d say technically it’s still a foul. I’d really like to hear why the referee decided it wasn’t and what changed his mind.

I see where you are coming from, but watching it again, it looks to me as if the Forest player starts to move his foot towards Mitoma’s arm first, rather than Mitoma catching his foot with his arm.

 

[Simster]

For me, it's one of those ones that could go either way, depending on the ref's view as to whether or not contact was initiated by Anderson or Mitoma.

One thing I will say - if that had been a cricket match, I think it would have been left as "umpire's call", not overturned by VAR, and the penalty upheld.

 

[Bodian]

For me, it's one of those ones that could go either way, depending on the ref's view as to whether or not contact was initiated by Anderson or Mitoma.

One thing I will say - if that had been a cricket match, I think it would have been left as "umpire's call", not overturned by VAR, and the penalty upheld.

It wasn't overturned by VAR though - not exactly. The ref had the ability to have a second look from an angle he would not have been able to see when awarding the penalty - and changed his mind.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

For me, it's one of those ones that could go either way, depending on the ref's view as to whether or not contact was initiated by Anderson or Mitoma.

One thing I will say - if that had been a cricket match, I think it would have been left as "umpire's call", not overturned by VAR, and the penalty upheld.

My real time thinking (watched on tv) was a penalty, Mitoma flew in and caught him. Then I saw the first reply and it was clear he’d missed both player and ball so it wasn’t a pen. But then an other angle showed Mitoma hooking his foot with his arm. I could not see any evidence it was initiated by the Forest guy so it’s a pen.

I can’t view the replay @Bozza posted as it’s geoblocked….ill look later on my iPad

 

[Surf's Up]

Given the general approach taken by Forest to disrupt, fall over at the slightest contact, stop us from advancing by taking players out, pushing players in the back all over the pitch etc etc etc any suggestion that their player deliberately left a trailing leg out in order to create contact and thus to deceive the ref into giving a penalty is almost certain to be correct.

 

[Gazwag]

Not a penalty and why didn't he get a yellow card

But, I now wish it was a penalty as we would have been in a far better position to get anything from Wednesdays game had it been

 

[Bodian]

Not a penalty and why didn't he get a yellow card

But, I now wish it was a penalty as we would have been in a far better position to get anything from Wednesdays game had it been

And knowing us - if we'd gone a goal down, we may well have come back to win anyway.

 

[Barryseagulls]

No pen - Forrest player initiated contact

 

[alanfp]

Not a penalty and why didn't he get a yellow card

No yellow card because he didn't deliberately try to deceive the ref. There's no way that at that speed, he thought "If I tread on Mitoma's arm, it'll look like he tried to trip me up with his elbow while sliding uncontrollably towards the goal line".

Not every contact between players has to be either a foul or simulation.

 

[Wardy's twin]

His leg is targeting Mitoma's arm , no way is that a penalty.

 

[Sea Cider]

From the earlier video it looks like Mitoma's sleeve clearly catches his foot and pulls it out from under him. Amazed so many have voted no penalty!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Having now watched the replay posted earlier, in slow-mo at few times 1) I don’t see the Forest player doing anything untoward ….he tries to get the ball under control and then, with his foot slightly over the ball, needs to put his foot on the deck. 2) When putting his foot down Mitoma’s arm catches him and drags his foot from him. That’s a foul

 

[Seagull58]

My real time thinking (watched on tv) was a penalty, Mitoma flew in and caught him. Then I saw the first reply and it was clear he’d missed both player and ball so it wasn’t a pen. But then an other angle showed Mitoma hooking his foot with his arm. I could not see any evidence it was initiated by the Forest guy so it’s a pen.

I can’t view the replay @Bozza posted as it’s geoblocked….ill look later on my iPad

No, no, no. Mitoma does not hook his foot. As Mitoma slides by, in classic Billy Wright v Puskas style, Anderson steps on his arm, accidently I think. Its a "coming together" and no foul.

 

[ROSM]

As I understand it, the senior assistant ref (with the red and yellow flag) told bankes it was an error and so that may have influenced var asking him to review rather than leave it as refs call

 

[Bodian]

Having now watched the replay posted earlier, in slow-mo at few times 1) I don’t see the Forest player doing anything untoward ….he tries to get the ball under control and then, with his foot slightly over the ball, needs to put his foot on the deck. 2) When putting his foot down Mitoma’s arm catches him and drags his foot from him. That’s a foul

If a player A stands on player B's foot, and player B moves his foot away causing player A to lose his balance - is that a foul?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No, no, no. Mitoma does not hook his foot. As Mitoma slides by, in classic Billy Wright v Puskas style, Anderson steps on his arm, accidently I think. Its a "coming together" and no foul.

After watching the clip, I changed my wording in my post just above. Hooking sounded too active on Mitoma‘s part so I changed it to the more passive sounding “catches him”

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

If a player A stands on player B's foot, and player B moves his foot away causing player A to lose his balance - is that a foul?

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