The official site and other outlets making a thing of it and Lamptey saying he thought he got some of the ball - nobody really knows the interpretation of the rules do they it’s very odd.
Nor do I, because MacAllister’s was as well.The follow through wasn't excessive in force or studs up. However, in the case of the studs planted in Mac Allister's chest it was - but no penalty. I don't understand.
But never mind Tariq, I'm in an over 60s tournament Monday, so I hope it's been cleared up by then
The FA laws of the game are freely available on the internet. You need to look for penalty and direct free kick….all will then become clear. I also posted the relevant laws in an earlier post.So where in the rules does it say it dont matter about making contact with the ball.
ThisWhy does the strength of Lamptey's touch matter? He either got the ball or he didn't.
Like you, I always try and defend refs and this is another area where I will - there’s nothing wrong with ‘sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn’t’ - every challenge or ‘foul’ is different - that is football.Not in law. There is nothing in the law about contact with the ball with regard to fouls, nor contact with the ball first nor how much contact is needed. But it is the explanation given when the ref doesn't give the foul (not just by pundits trying to explain it, but you will sometimes see refs gesture toward the ball, or make a sphere shape with their hands to indicated he 'got the ball'. I try to defend refs or explain their decisions as best I can, but this approach of 'some times it matters, sometimes it doesn't' really annoys me.
Agree, but re VAR just get rid of it.Like you, I always try and defend refs and this is another area where I will - there’s nothing wrong with ‘sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn’t’ - every challenge or ‘foul’ is different - that is football.
There are just too many subjective calls in football for decisions to always be black and white. That is why VAR will never be that effective in football - look at this decision - on a Brighton fan forum of all things, the poll is very close with some wide ranging opinions. VAR has no chance!
The sooner everyone in football accepts that decisions are never going to be ‘correct’ as a lot of times there isn’t a widely ‘correct’ decision and you’ll get some calls and not others, the better.
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Oh absolutely. It’s pointless for the reasons I’ve said above. If this many fans can disagree on a forum for a club who the decision was given against, what chance has VAR got and what is the point in it?!Agree, but re VAR just get rid of it.
They weren’t for the first 30 mins, I had hope until the bs pen. I’m not upset though.I’m not doing that though.
Arsenal were clearly considerably better and deserved the three points.
My issue isn't with subjectivity, or about every foul being different. It's simply with using whether or not a player gets the ball as the key defining aspect of whether a challenge is a foul. It is not and should not ever be about that. It should be about the challenge - was it careless, reckless, or was it excessive force.Like you, I always try and defend refs and this is another area where I will - there’s nothing wrong with ‘sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn’t’ - every challenge or ‘foul’ is different - that is football.
There are just too many subjective calls in football for decisions to always be black and white. That is why VAR will never be that effective in football - look at this decision - on a Brighton fan forum of all things, the poll is very close with some wide ranging opinions. VAR has no chance!
The sooner everyone in football accepts that decisions are never going to be ‘correct’ as a lot of times there isn’t a widely ‘correct’ decision and you’ll get some calls and not others, the better.
I think most of us appreciate that you'll win some decisions and lose some. What pisses me off is the inconsistency, and the bias in the EPL. I live in Austria and watch a lot of live and TV football here. The standard of football is way below the EPL, but the standard of referring is better, and I don't recall seeing a VAR decision all season that I questioned.The sooner everyone in football accepts that decisions are never going to be ‘correct’ as a lot of times there isn’t a widely ‘correct’ decision and you’ll get some calls and not others, the better.
I see what you mean. Yes I agree, I think one of the biggest issues with referees decisions at the highest level is not the decisions themselves but wider communication of them. This is definitely something that could be improved upon for the referees benefit as well as everyone else.My issue isn't with subjectivity, or about every foul being different. It's simply with using whether or not a player gets the ball as the key defining aspect of whether a challenge is a foul. It is not and should not ever be about that. It should be about the challenge - was it careless, reckless, or was it excessive force.
Is that because you care less about the football over there though and are not emotionally invested?I think most of us appreciate that you'll win some decisions and lose some. What pisses me off is the inconsistency, and the bias in the EPL. I live in Austria and watch a lot of live and TV football here. The standard of football is way below the EPL, but the standard of referring is better, and I don't recall seeing a VAR decision all season that I questioned.
Win the ball without fouling the player. If that is classed as a foul, then the game is stopped every Minute, for a foul.Let’s hear your understanding of the rule.
You don’t actually have one, do you? You’re just basing it on what you have heard and what you assume.