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Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Do you remember him for the Cup Final or relegation?

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Hicks is no Anfield threat
Feb 16 2007
by James Pearce, Liverpool Echo

THE white disco shoes don’t get much of an airing these days, but Jimmy Melia is still living life in the fast lane.
The 69-year-old former Liverpool star is academy director at Texas Longhorns Soccer Club in Dallas.
At an age when most men are getting out the pipe and slippers, he’s out on the training ground every day spotting, coaching and nurturing the stars of the future.
Living in the same city as new Liverpool joint owner Tom Hicks, ‘soccer’ inevitably plays second fiddle to the US tycoon’s major interests, Texas Rangers baseball club and Dallas Stars ice hockey team.
But Melia, who grew up in the Scotland Road area of Liverpool, has seen interest in the sport blossom during his 17 years in America.
“I work with kids aged 10 to 18 and as well as being in charge of the Longhorns’ academy, I coach the under-11s and also work for Solar Soccer Club,” he said. “It’s a seven days a week job and I love it. I’m not slowing down, in fact I feel like I’ve got a second wind.
“Things have changed so much. When I first came over the kids would train once a week, now it’s three or four times.
“Things are so much more professional and the standard has improved massively. That’s down to having a great set-up of full-time coaches.
“Clubs have select soccer sides and you have to be a really good player to play at that level, particularly in Dallas, where they’ve got the best youth programme in the country.
“In England kids set their sights on signing for a top club as a teenager but the aim here is to play select football up to under-18s and then earn a college scholarship. A lot of youngsters have progressed and gone on to play in Europe.”
While Dallas is now home for Melia, Liverpool remains close to his heart. The inside forward arrived at Anfield as a 15-year-old in 1953 and over the next 11 years scored 78 goals in 287 appearances.
Under Bill Shankly he won a Second Division championship medal in 1962 and two years later helped Liverpool clinch the league title for the first time since 1947. His talents were recognised as he won two England caps under Alf Ramsey.
“We got it all started under Shankly and getting the club back into the First Division was the highlight,” he said.
“Shanks was terrific. His enthusiasm and love for the game. His passion and knowledge. The signings of Ron Yeats and Ian St John were master strokes and he turned the club around.
“I was very lucky to play under some great people like Shanks and Bob Paisley, Stan Cullis at Wolves, Ted Bates at Southampton – I learned so much.
“Liverpool are still my team and the great thing is I get to see all the games on cable TV. I’ll be watching the Barcelona game next week and I think we’ve got a decent chance. There have been a couple of disappointing results recently, but Liverpool always raise their game against the better sides.”
Melia’s passion for the Reds is clear and he has taken a keen interest in the takeover by Texan Tom Hicks and business partner George Gillett.
“It’s been big in the news over here and all the talk is that Americans are taking over the Premiership,” he said.
“Tom Hicks is well known around here for his work with the baseball and ice hockey clubs. I think it’s a great move because he’s regarded as a very professional and successful businessmen. A friend of mine who’s a crazy Liverpool fan delivers wine to Tom Hicks and we’re hoping to sort out a meeting with him.
"Of course he wants to make a profit, but he has a proven track record of making things work. Who knows what his plans are for 10 or 15 years time? He might sell it on, but as long as he puts money in and builds up the club I don’t mind that.
“The big thing is the commitment to the new stadium which is something Liverpool really needs. It also looks like there will be significant money for new players and that’s terrific.
“It’s a great club with a great tradition. I think three new signings would put them right up there with Man United and Chelsea.”
Melia was sold by Shankly to Wolves for £50,000 in March 1964 and his playing career ended with spells at Southampton, Aldershot and Crewe, where he started out in management.
He also managed Southport before[ he shot to national fame when in charge at Brighton. In 1983 he led the Seagulls to Wembley in the FA Cup, with his eye-catching white shoes getting as much attention as his side’s performances. Melia’s men inflicted a shock fifth round defeat on Bob Paisley’s Reds at Anfield but they lost the final to Manchester United after a replay.
“Going back to my old club and beating Liverpool was very special because I was brought up just two miles from the ground and played for the club for 12 years,” he said.
“My mum, Mary, still lives just off Scotty Road in the house I grew up in.
“I’ve still got those white shoes everyone talked about. They’re put away but maybe I should put them up for sale! I guess it was a fashion statement at the time.”

Melia managed Portuguese club Belenenses and Stockport County and also coached in Dubai and Kuwait before being tempted to the States.
“When the First Gulf War broke out I had to move on and was invited over to run a soccer camp in San Francisco,” he said. “Then they said they wanted me to start up a new club in Dallas and I’m still in Texas 17 years later.
“I’ll stay here for the rest of my life. The climate is great and there are exciting times ahead.
“There are now more kids over here playing soccer than any other sport.
“US international Clinton Dempsey played his football in Dallas and is now doing very well at Fulham, while Reading have a number of Americans on their books. The goalkeepers, especially, are exceptional because US kids are very good with their hands.
"There’s real excitement about David Beckham coming over and the interest is just going to grow and grow.”
Melia would love to see one of his youngsters pull on a red shirt one day.
“I actually recommended a kid to Liverpool and he was due to go over last summer but then went and broke his ankle,” he said. “He’s a refugee from Africa called Alfred and is the best kid I’ve seen in the country.
“He’s only 13 but is in the national under-16 team. He’s an unbelievable talent – even better than I was! Hopefully when he gets back to the level he was at we can arrange another trial.”
Later this year Melia turns 70, but retirement is not on the agenda.
“When will I take it easy? When I get old that’s when,” he added.
 




perseus

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Jul 5, 2003
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Has anybody read Alan Mullerys biography?

I have just read the Brighton bit.
 










cjd

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Binney on acid said:
Complete $£%&* idiot. He guided us successfully to relegation.

Correct.....though to be fair...he was so weak, I think Foster & co picked the team in those days.
 


BensGrandad

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Com[plete numbskull as you only have to win 7 games to win the cup. we won 6 and lost the final by playing Gatting at right back in the replay who was completely lost.
 






East Staffs Gull

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Biscuit said:
He didn't play Ward in the final or something?

Ward had been on loan from Forest. Clough recalled Ward and allegedly said to him "Young man, I never played at Wembley and you're not going to either", or something along those lines.
 


withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
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I seem to remember we needed another striker but the search was fruitless.

Probably a goalkeeper for emergencies.

We were favourites for relegation every year we were in DIV 1,Mr Melia merely made sure the favoutites came in.
 


BensGrandad

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withdeanwombat said:
I.

We were favourites for relegation every year we were in DIV 1,Mr Melia merely made sure the favoutites came in.

At one time in a season Mike BAILEY had got us up to 8th in the 1st Div with 1 - 0 wins and 0 - 0 draws but was sacked because the fans didnt like the football that was being played and no Dick Knight wasn't Chairman at the time.
 




I don't think he was a particularly good manager but he was (partly) responsible for the greatest day out the club has ever had.

And EVERYBODY - not just Melia - took their eye off the ball and got carried away with the cup run and we ended up getting relegated.

That was the main reason - that and the fact that we were basically a not very good team at the time who could turn it on occasionally but not week in week out.
 
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East Staffs Gull said:
Ward had been on loan from Forest. Clough recalled Ward and allegedly said to him "Young man, I never played at Wembley and you're not going to either", or something along those lines.

I doubt that one. Clough wouldn't have said anything like that to a player and expected him to like turning out for his side ever again.
 


Tubby Mondays

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East Staffs Gull said:
Ward had been on loan from Forest. Clough recalled Ward and allegedly said to him "Young man, I never played at Wembley and you're not going to either", or something along those lines.

'I never played in a cup final and youre not going to either'.
 




Dave the OAP

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BensGrandad said:
At one time in a season Mike BAILEY had got us up to 8th in the 1st Div with 1 - 0 wins and 0 - 0 draws but was sacked because the fans didnt like the football that was being played and no Dick Knight wasn't Chairman at the time.


do you remember the fans forum at the Brighton Centre when this was discussed......that was full of people moaning about the football we were playing. I seem to remember Baily saying then."...do you want attractive football and relegation or do you want to stay in this division......"
 


You can certainly make an argument that Mike Bailey was the most successful Brighton manager ever.

Not the best, certainly not the most popular, and probably not the one that people would want back.

But his achievement in getting us to 8th place in the top tier was massive.
 


BensGrandad

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The story about what Brian Clough was alleged to have said to Wardy about the cup final is true according to Peter Ward.

Another little story Peter told me:

After losing an evening game he told the coach driver to carry on driving past Leicester Forest Services, where PW was meeting his wife, about 1/4 mile further down the M1 he told the driver to pull over on the hard shoulder and let PW out to which Peter said 'Boss its raining hard' and BC replied 'then you had better run for the first time tonight or you will get wet.'

To reply to DTG given the same option boring football or relegation what would people on here want now.
 


dunno

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Jul 6, 2003
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That team was too good to go down (well on paper anyway!) - I agree with the previous post that had Bailey been allowed to continue, we could of established ourselves in the top flight, hopefully upgrading the Goldstone or getting permission for another stadium elsewhere (about 25 years earlier!) and we may have avoided the problems of the early 90's. The trouble was that Mike Bamber thought that the dwindling crowds was totally to do with the negative football, which I guess was part of the reason, but most clubs were suffering with lower crowds at the time, which I think was mainly to do with hooliganism (not TV funnily enough as the first live Sunday game was a year or so later). Melia took over and we had a good cup run - partly 'cos he got the best out of Jimmy Case (fellow Scouser) and the seniorsplayers seemed to up their game for the cup, but league form never improved and we went down in double quick time. But with players like Foster, Stevens, Robinson, Smith, Ritchie and Case - players that got us into the top half the previous season - WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE DOWN. As you can see that relegation still hurts!!!!!:censored:
 




Brovion

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Dave the Gaffer said:
do you remember the fans forum at the Brighton Centre when this was discussed......that was full of people moaning about the football we were playing. I seem to remember Baily saying then."...do you want attractive football and relegation or do you want to stay in this division......"
I wasn't there fop that but I do remember that by Bailey's second season the novelty of playing in the top division and long since gone. Crowds were on the slide and people were reminiscing about the 'Good Old Days' of Divison 3. Yeah, the teams weren't so glamourous but at least you saw a few Albion goals (and wins).

Bailey was one of a breed of managers who put results first, second and third and entertainment a poor ninety-second. Do you remember Ian Greaves the Bolton manager? "If fans want entertainment they can go to the circus." Jack Charlton was another. A Middlesborough fan I know, talking about that era, said results-wise Charton was one of the best managers they'd ever had - but if you saw Middlesborough score a goal then you didn't bother going for another four games because you wouldn't see another one.

I think the old 'Results or Entertainment' argument was to a large extent killed by three points for a win. Then you could go a bit gung-ho, win one week and lose the next and you'd be a point better off than grinding out two 0-0 draws.
 




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