Visiting team ticket allocations at the Amex

[kingcole]

It seemed a great idea that the away section moved to the East stand and increased the flexibility of the away area, so more seats could be made available for home supporters if required and away support was poor.

However, with possibly the worst supported team in the league being offered seats in both the ESL and the corners, there is going to be a lot of wasted space.

850 in the corner would have sufficed for Barnsley, but instead their supporters can buy ESP or the corner. These 2 areas have a combined capacity of 2000.

If away supporters are continued to be given a choice there could be a lot of empty seats. I am not suggesting home support will sell out, but if it did then it's one hell of a waste.

Surely the allocations should be like this......

Away following to be under 850 - Just the SE corner
Away following to be under 1200 - Just the ESL
Away following to be 2000 - ESL and the SE corner
Away support to be up to 3300 - ESL, SE corner & half the south
Away support to be 4500 (15% cup only) ESL, SE corner and all the south

If clubs are to be offered ESL and SE every game, then there is less flexibility than last year, as then we could offer 2600 or 1200 (split south).

This year if we pursue with this policy it will be 2100 or 3300.

AND.... Of the few Barnsley faithful who make the trip, I would guess 90% of them will choose the cheapest seats, meaning a quarter of our lovely south stand will be empty.

Hope they sort it.

 

[00snook]

As long as all the home seats are filled and we make plenty of noise a few empty away seats won't bother me.

That being said your suggestion does make sense to me. Good idea.

 

[Garage_Doors]

The club already have a volume plan in place for visiting supporters, depending on the number they will make the relevant numbers of blocks available, and those complete blocks not used will be sold to home fans, They reallly do know what they are doing.

 

[Ian Bairds Fist]

The club already have a volume plan in place for visiting supporters, depending on the number they will make the relevant numbers of blocks available, and those complete blocks not used will be sold to home fans, They reallly do know what they are doing.

Now that Perry and Brown are out of the way this comment actually sounds plausible.

 

[kingcole]

The club already have a volume plan in place for visiting supporters, depending on the number they will make the relevant numbers of blocks available, and those complete blocks not used will be sold to home fans, They reallly do know what they are doing.

This cannot be true. It is simply not possible to divide on a block by block basis. For example in the ESL the shutters can come down to seperate the end 2 blocks. It can't be done to separate one block.

In the case of Barnsley, there will be over 1000 unsold seats which cannot be sold to home fans. As they are selling BOTH ESL and SE to aways.

 

[Davey Boy Smith]

Does anyone know if the club are putting in any permanent means of seperation between home and away fans? Appreciate you may only want to fix one side in place so that the away capacity can be flexed but haven't seen any thing that may provide this in the pictures or plans? Seems either resource heavy to have to provide a line of stewards to keep seperation or inefficient having to introduce a sterile area where seats are routinely left empty for safety.

 

[severnside gull]

In theory it's a good idea to maximise home fans although segregating the concourses is possibly a factor. However I like the idea of empty seats in the away section and it looking sparse with the relatively few attending being widely spread out.

The less support away sides have the better for us

 

[Brok]

Good point. 800 away fans can still look good and sound very loud when in a section with 800 seats. However, when they're in an area that holds 2,000+, they look pretty shit.

In answer to the original question, I guess at least by offering away clubs both ESL and SEC tickets their fans do have a little bit of choice on price and can avoid going away feeling like they've been totally raped by Paul Barber to the tune of THIRTY-FOUR POUNDS.

Bloody hell, am I the only one that gets a bit confused when people go on about ESL, SEC, ESU, SWL, SWM, WSU etc etc?


Alright, I probably am, and later on we'll have all the NE's and NW's to contend with...

 

[drew]

Now that Perry and Brown are out of the way this comment actually sounds plausible.

Been at the Amex for one season and you are slagging of a man who fought tooth and nail for the club through the inquiry process and project managed the building of the place. Marvellous.

 

[Jack Daniels]

It seemed a great idea that the away section moved to the East stand and increased the flexibility of the away area, so more seats could be made available for home supporters if required and away support was poor.

However, with possibly the worst supported team in the league being offered seats in both the ESL and the corners, there is going to be a lot of wasted space.

850 in the corner would have sufficed for Barnsley, but instead their supporters can buy ESP or the corner. These 2 areas have a combined capacity of 2000.

If away supporters are continued to be given a choice there could be a lot of empty seats. I am not suggesting home support will sell out, but if it did then it's one hell of a waste.

Surely the allocations should be like this......

Away following to be under 850 - Just the SE corner
Away following to be under 1200 - Just the ESL
Away following to be 2000 - ESL and the SE corner
Away support to be up to 3300 - ESL, SE corner & half the south
Away support to be 4500 (15% cup only) ESL, SE corner and all the south

If clubs are to be offered ESL and SE every game, then there is less flexibility than last year, as then we could offer 2600 or 1200 (split south).

This year if we pursue with this policy it will be 2100 or 3300.

AND.... Of the few Barnsley faithful who make the trip, I would guess 90% of them will choose the cheapest seats, meaning a quarter of our lovely south stand will be empty.

Hope they sort it.

The club must love how much unpaid work they get out of NSC members.

If they don't, there not using it properly.

If I got a job at the club. I would simply provide the problem on NSC and wait for the solution to magically appear.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

It seemed a great idea that the away section moved to the East stand and increased the flexibility of the away area, so more seats could be made available for home supporters if required and away support was poor.

However, with possibly the worst supported team in the league being offered seats in both the ESL and the corners, there is going to be a lot of wasted space.

850 in the corner would have sufficed for Barnsley, but instead their supporters can buy ESP or the corner. These 2 areas have a combined capacity of 2000.

If away supporters are continued to be given a choice there could be a lot of empty seats. I am not suggesting home support will sell out, but if it did then it's one hell of a waste.

Surely the allocations should be like this......

Away following to be under 850 - Just the SE corner
Away following to be under 1200 - Just the ESL
Away following to be 2000 - ESL and the SE corner
Away support to be up to 3300 - ESL, SE corner & half the south
Away support to be 4500 (15% cup only) ESL, SE corner and all the south

If clubs are to be offered ESL and SE every game, then there is less flexibility than last year, as then we could offer 2600 or 1200 (split south).

This year if we pursue with this policy it will be 2100 or 3300.

AND.... Of the few Barnsley faithful who make the trip, I would guess 90% of them will choose the cheapest seats, meaning a quarter of our lovely south stand will be empty.

Hope they sort it.

Away following under 850 SEC , Away following under 1200 ESL . You cannot discriminate on price and charge everyone £34 to sit in ESL when the cheapest equivalent home seat is £28.

 

[Bob!]

Away following under 850 SEC , Away following under 1200 ESL . You cannot discriminate on price and charge everyone £34 to sit in ESL when the cheapest equivalent home seat is £28.

We do not sell tickets to Home fans in the lower side stands at £28 though.

 

[Bob!]

It seemed a great idea that the away section moved to the East stand and increased the flexibility of the away area, so more seats could be made available for home supporters if required and away support was poor.

However, with possibly the worst supported team in the league being offered seats in both the ESL and the corners, there is going to be a lot of wasted space.

850 in the corner would have sufficed for Barnsley, but instead their supporters can buy ESP or the corner. These 2 areas have a combined capacity of 2000.

If away supporters are continued to be given a choice there could be a lot of empty seats. I am not suggesting home support will sell out, but if it did then it's one hell of a waste.

Surely the allocations should be like this......

Away following to be under 850 - Just the SE corner
Away following to be under 1200 - Just the ESL
Away following to be 2000 - ESL and the SE corner
Away support to be up to 3300 - ESL, SE corner & half the south
Away support to be 4500 (15% cup only) ESL, SE corner and all the south

If clubs are to be offered ESL and SE every game, then there is less flexibility than last year, as then we could offer 2600 or 1200 (split south).

This year if we pursue with this policy it will be 2100 or 3300.

AND.... Of the few Barnsley faithful who make the trip, I would guess 90% of them will choose the cheapest seats, meaning a quarter of our lovely south stand will be empty.

Hope they sort it.

I guess the reason that every away club is offered the corner as well is because that is where the disabled seats for away fans are.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

We do not sell tickets to Home fans in the lower side stands at £28 though.

The cheapest equivalent home seat is in the South Stand at £28 , away fans in SEC pay that price too , with an away following under 1,200 you cannot stick them ALL in ESL and charge £34 a ticket. FL rule 34.2.8 explains. "No Club shall charge higher admission prices for visiting supporters for accommodation that is ranked as comparable with or inferior to that used by supporters of the Home Club in the same or next highest ranked accommodation."

 

[Bob!]

The cheapest equivalent home seat is in the South Stand at £28 , away fans in SEC pay that price too , with an away following under 1,200 you cannot stick them ALL in ESL and charge £34 a ticket......................................................."

Of course you can, we get charged higher prices at grounds when we are put in seats on the side.

But.. we don't do that anyway, so there's no problem.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Of course you can, we get charged higher prices at grounds when we are put in seats on the side.

But.. we don't do that anyway, so there's no problem.

That is why kingcole's suggestion for putting away fans which number between 850 and 1200 in ESL is flawed because it is unfair. I remember going to Chesterfield and they closed the terracing behind the goal so we had to pay an extra £2 to go in the seated area , they had to open up the next 2 block of seats as they underestimated how many were going to turn up.

 

[Bob!]

That is why kingcole's suggestion for putting away fans which number between 850 and 1200 in ESL is flawed because it is unfair. I remember going to Chesterfield and they closed the terracing behind the goal so we had to pay an extra £2 to go in the seated area , they had to open up the next 2 block of seats as they underestimated how many were going to turn up.

and it's also flawed because the away disabled seats are in the corner area, so those tickets will always go to away fans.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

and it's also flawed because the away disabled seats are in the corner area, so those tickets will always go to away fans.

Exactly , although I wouldn't be too happy if I had to sit in the row behind and watch the game through a perspex safety screen.

 

[kingcole]

I didn't realise there was only disabled seating in the corner. However, for low support, aka Barnsley, the fans get the disabled seating and the cheapest tickets and could all be accomodated here - so why not just give them the corner?