[Football] Villa missing out on the Champions League because...

[Bozza]

Sorry what? They lost 2-0.

Also only in the league from the worst decision in premier league history.

The non-goal happened when it was 0-0, so would have put them 1-0 up, with just 17 minutes to go in a game they only needed to draw.

 

[Seasider78]

Sorry what? They lost 2-0.

Also only in the league from the worst decision in premier league history.

Exactly I don’t remember them writing to the PGMOL over fairness over that incident which was a million times worse than this one

 

[Bozza]

Funny.

Villa will now be forced to come up with another PSR dodge.
Hopefully they come up with something creative, for @El Presidente to analyse.

He wasted no time with some analysis for BBC Sport.

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Aston Villa complain to PGMOL after 'big mistake' at Old Trafford

Aston Villa have made an official complaint after a "big mistake" by referee Thomas Bramall during a 2-0 loss at Manchester United.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[HeaviestTed]

They should either var or not - it is stupid that var can’t intervene in this situation or things like a second yellow - the end result is the same, a mistake changes the outcome of the game.

 

[El Presidente]

I was out for dinner with a sports lawyer on Friday night in Brighton, he is of the view that a legal claim for compensation following an incorrect refereeing decision is possible…but not easy.

 

[El Presidente]

He wasted no time with some analysis for BBC Sport.

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Aston Villa complain to PGMOL after 'big mistake' at Old Trafford

Aston Villa have made an official complaint after a "big mistake" by referee Thomas Bramall during a 2-0 loss at Manchester United.

www.bbc.co.uk

Being a dullard it’s highly unlikely that I’m going to be at a party or any other social occasion so I’m always on call.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Really, their poor financial management/disregard for the rules will force them to sell players.
As others have said, there are 37 other games that they have played this season where they could have picked up more points.
Perhaps if they didn't cheat, dive, and time waste so much they would have had time to score that additional goal they needed.

I mean, I'm here for it for all the reasons you mention

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I was out for dinner with a sports lawyer on Friday night in Brighton, he is of the view that a legal claim for compensation following an incorrect refereeing decision is possible…but not easy.

Would the PL be massively covered for this in their rules?

Who would they sue?

 

[mikeyjh]

Looking at the laws again, it may have actually been the correct decision.

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:

• the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms, except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save

This is what happens though isn't it, pundits/fans see an incident, cry merry hell but don't actually know the laws. The whole goalkeeper being 'in control' thing is quite nebulous and, of course, this week we're saying that play should be allowed to continue. Refs can't win can they.

I will add that EXACTLY the same thing happens in rugby - Even on Friday, every man and his dog is saying that Sam Underhill should have been sent off without acknowledging the fact that the ref followed the protocol and explained precisely why it wasn't a red.

 

[Weststander]

I was out for dinner with a sports lawyer on Friday night in Brighton, he is of the view that a legal claim for compensation following an incorrect refereeing decision is possible…but not easy.

Then he invoiced you.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

This is what happens though isn't it, pundits/fans see an incident, cry merry hell but don't actually know the laws. The whole goalkeeper being 'in control' thing is quite nebulous and, of course, this week we're saying that play should be allowed to continue. Refs can't win can they.

I will add that EXACTLY the same thing happens in rugby - Even on Friday, every man and his dog is saying that Sam Underhill should have been sent off without acknowledging the fact that the ref followed the protocol and explained precisely why it wasn't a red.

So reading the rules above the ball only has to be between the hands and not actually be held?

In which case it was the right call

 

[Silverhatch]

I think the update is Chelsea don't give a shit what happens on Wednesday night now.

They might not but I f***ing do

 

[Silverhatch]

Chelsea are playing Champions League next season, they really won’t give a shft what happens in Wrocław!

Chelsea don’t give a f*** about manipulating or gaming rules. Cheating twats. And they WILL care if Betis beat them.

 

[mikeyjh]

So reading the rules above the ball only has to be between the hands and not actually be held?

In which case it was the right call

I probably agree. Either way, it's nowhere near as cut and dried as many would have you think.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

The whole thing started to unravel when ;they' decided they had to impose arbitrary rules on when VAR could or could not intervene. Should have just been allowed whenever there is a clear and obvious error (and PGMOL's ridiculous definition of 'clear and obvious' should have been booted straight into touch too).

The problem is, even if VAR didn’t have such stringent rules on when it can and can’t get involved, it would have still been powerless in this situation. As the ref blew the whistle before the ball crossed the line, the game had stopped and therefore the goal was never actually scored to be allowed or disallowed.

 

[METALMICKY]

As someone else has pointed out today we have been denied Europe by virtue of Attwell and VAR's shocker in the Cup Final so I won't be shedding any tears for Villa.

This with bells on! Awful decision but not the first so suck it up Villa! How many teams stuffed by the FA cup Henderson decision?

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

So reading the rules above the ball only has to be between the hands and not actually be held?

In which case it was the right call

I don't think for a moment that's how it's meant to be interpreted.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

At least it will have cheered up the Sheffield United fans.

 

[Bodian]

So reading the rules above the ball only has to be between the hands and not actually be held?

In which case it was the right call

'literally' that's what it says, yes. But that opens up a whole new debate on how close the hands have to be to the ball to count. They could be six inches either side of the ball if you read it totally literally - and that surely couldn't be right?

 

[dsr-burnley]

Yeah, the point is the whistle is supposed to be final. Game over or game stopped. In one scenario they went back in another they didn’t.

When the whistle bowls, the ball is dead and nothing that happens after the whistle can be changed.

The penalty after full time scenario is talking about something that happened before the whistle, and so VAR can change it.