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V Sign



Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
11,713
Bishops Stortford
Everywhere I look on photos in Facebook, girls are making V signs in various poses. It used to be an insult, so how are girls using it now?

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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
The V sign as shown in the picture has never been an insult it was the sign Churchill used for Victory. The insult is with the first two fingers from the thumb with the nails facing towards the intended.
 


Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
11,713
Bishops Stortford
My question is: Why are you looking for girls on facebook? :laugh: Your too young to ask questions like that

In response to your question, I thought it meant Peace...But I'm young :laugh:

Japanese girls seem to do it a lot - perhaps something to do with VJ day?

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Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
11,713
Bishops Stortford
So what about when the V is held provocatively in front of the girls mouth. Does this have lesbian overtones?
 








Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
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Fish Supper on the menu.

Now thats what I was thinking. This means there are an awful lot of girlies happy to make this innuendo.
 








Raphael Meade

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Jul 5, 2003
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Ex-Shoreham
So are those Japanese girls being rude?

no... over here the v sign with the inside of your fingers facing out means peace, but the other way around i always thought was f-you. over there, both ways around means peace, etc.
literally every single japanese person throws the v sign up when posing for a photo :)
 






Uncle C

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Jul 6, 2004
11,713
Bishops Stortford
no... over here the v sign with the inside of your fingers facing out means peace, but the other way around i always thought was f-you. over there, both ways around means peace, etc.
literally every single japanese person throws the v sign up when posing for a photo :)

OK that's sorted that out. So what about the provocative V sign given by drunken girls when partying together? This seems to have an altogether different meaning.
 
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Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
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The V sign as shown in the picture has never been an insult it was the sign Churchill used for Victory. The insult is with the first two fingers from the thumb with the nails facing towards the intended.

The origin of this insult is supposedly a result of the English / French wars. The French hated our archers and if they ever caught an English archer, they would cut those two fingers off making it impossible for them to fire an arrow in future. Prior to a battle, the English would then show these two fingers to the French as an insulting gesture of defiance, showing that they still had these fingers.

The V sign given with the palm facing out is a widely recognised and used symbol of peace
 




Collar Feeler

No longer feeling collars
Jul 26, 2003
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The outward V was deemed particularly rude and insulting when I was a kid in the 70s, I'm sure we combined it then by sticking your tongue through the middle of the V as if making reference to womans front bum. Alas it seems to have been replaced these days with the American middle finger. I don't get many people these days flipping me a good old fashioned V sign but the 'finger' is much more common. I liked the V sign insult, and like the historical explanation that it was aimed at the French by gallant English longbowmen. Bring back the V I say.
 


Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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Sunny Shoreham
The origin of this insult is supposedly a result of the English / French wars. The French hated our archers and if they ever caught an English archer, they would cut those two fingers off making it impossible for them to fire an arrow in future. Prior to a battle, the English would then show these two fingers to the French as an insulting gesture of defiance, showing that they still had these fingers.

The V sign given with the palm facing out is a widely recognised and used symbol of peace

That is a nice story, but completely untrue. This tale had never been heard before the 1970s, which would have been impossible if it had originated in the 14th century. Many people do believe it though.
 


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