United fans

[Tooting Gull]

I think some of the problem at this match has actually been caused by widening the issue from the fallout from the latest panel over Hillsborough - which saw almost total unanimity among supporters, even United's, at feeling the families had at last been vindicated - to the decision by somone to widen this to stopping all sick chanting at football matches, and specifically this one.

Once this was done, and I'm not sure whose idea this was, United did and said a lot of the right things in the build-up to the Anfield match, from Fergie to other club officials specifically speaking to their fans.

I haven't heard much from Liverpool about stopping Munich songs though, something United fans had listened to for 30 years before Hillsborough with no one lifting a finger to stop them, especially on Merseyside. The biggest LFC concession seemed to have been getting Suarez to 'agree' to shake Evra's hand, a man he racially abused. How big of him.

If Liverpool were serious about stopping sick chants in general I think they missed an opportunity last week, they should have said something about the now 50 years plus of chants United have endured about Munich, and I am sure that would have created a better atmosphere on Sunday.

But they didn't, their choice, and here we are all talking about the dregs again.

 

[pork pie]

It's a small minority of fans, so to label all United fans the same is completely unfair. Nothing was made of the Liverpool fans chanting about Munich?

Ah, they were the days - singing Munich songs in the old North Stand and at Wembley. Wound the Cockney Reds up a treat! When did football become so soft?

 

[btnred]

Ah, they were the days - singing Munich songs in the old North Stand and at Wembley. Wound the Cockney Reds up a treat! When did football become so soft?

Dickhead

 

[Aadam]

I particularly like "Murderers, murderers". So, so true.

I think it was burglars, burglars they were singing...

 

[pork pie]

Dickhead

Wanker!

A red from Brighton? Another one from nowhere near Manchester! lol

 

[Gritt23]

In that case he is being economical with the truth. The majority of fans of any club don't sing and in the case of Man U most of their fans wouldn't know the words even

I disagree when it comes to an away game, especially at a big rival. Are you saying that it will only be a minority of us singing at Selhurst at the end of the game, having won?

 

[Gritt23]

Ah, they were the days - singing Munich songs in the old North Stand and at Wembley. Wound the Cockney Reds up a treat! When did football become so soft?

It would have been around about the time we all grew up.

 

[pork pie]

It would have been around about the time we all grew up.

We grew up, but it is so boring now that the "edge" is missing at matches, these kids don't know what they are missing.

 

[Decode]

I think some of the problem at this match has actually been caused by widening the issue from the fallout from the latest panel over Hillsborough - which saw almost total unanimity among supporters, even United's, at feeling the families had at last been vindicated - to the decision by somone to widen this to stopping all sick chanting at football matches, and specifically this one.

Once this was done, and I'm not sure whose idea this was, United did and said a lot of the right things in the build-up to the Anfield match, from Fergie to other club officials specifically speaking to their fans.

I haven't heard much from Liverpool about stopping Munich songs though, something United fans had listened to for 30 years before Hillsborough with no one lifting a finger to stop them, especially on Merseyside. The biggest LFC concession seemed to have been getting Suarez to 'agree' to shake Evra's hand, a man he racially abused. How big of him.

If Liverpool were serious about stopping sick chants in general I think they missed an opportunity last week, they should have said something about the now 50 years plus of chants United have endured about Munich, and I am sure that would have created a better atmosphere on Sunday.

But they didn't, their choice, and here we are all talking about the dregs again.

Completely agree. Brendan Rogers spent all week condemning "fans" who sang about Hillsborough. Then when it came down to aeroplane gestures, he can't comment!

The occasion was marred slightly after the final whistle when a couple of home supporters ran across from the main stand to the visiting contingent - held behind on police orders - and started making aeroplane signals in a clear reference to the Munich air disaster in 1958 when eight United players were among 21 people who lost their lives.

The provocation was met with chants of "Always the victims" and "Murderers" from the travelling fans in relation to the Hillsborough and Heysel stadium disasters that Liverpool were involved with in the 1980s.

"What was done at the end I cannot comment on as I didn't hear or see anything," Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers said.

United did all they could to calm the situation. Ferguson last week said he didn't hear the chanting at Old Trafford, but said he was disappointed and embarrassed, something along those lines anyway.

The media are just as bad, The Daily Mail (Parents buy it not me!) had a whole article on Sheffield Wednesday's chairman writing a letter asking for guidance on financial matters relating to the Hillsborough disaster. The guy is now dead, Wednesday are a completely different club, run by different people, whats the point of coming after Wednesday!?