UK net migration hits record high

[alfredmizen]

When you say we are rich and privileged, I suspect you mean the Royal we, as it is a irrefutable fact that there are many millions of people who live in chastening poverty here in the UK.......as they did in the industrial revolution.

I think the vast majority of these people who are currently living in chastening poverty, and who are (for example) amongst the 1.8m in England who are waiting for social housing may have a materially different view to you about their wealth and privilege.

It would be good if the BBC and other media sources would canvass these people's opinion on this subject, I have yet to hear what they have to say.

The demographic who appear to be on TV the most and who are in rapture about the prospect of the UK receiving thousands of refugees for the existing UK poor to fight it out with in terms of who can get access to the already scarce resources (like social housing support) are predominantly wealthy middle class liberals.........social democrats. Capitalists masquerading as socialists.

This smug supercilious attitude of people like you reminds me of Bellotti, when he told BHA fans to "stop whining" when the protests started following the announcement of us playing in Portsmouth was made.

It didn't affect him did it...............w@nker.

spot on.

 

[alfredmizen]

As are nearly 90% of muslims! The only country in the world with a majority Shia population is Iran I think?

Nope, Iraq is majority Shia.

 

[Simster]

Nope, Iraq is majority Shia.

True, although it's much closer there I think. Iran is 90-95% Shia.

 

[alfredmizen]

Are you going for the worlds most dumbest racist title?

No, instead of name calling perhaps you'd like to answer my post , you categorically stated that Kurds are different from Sunnis, what was wrong with my post ??

 

[alfredmizen]

True, although it's much closer there I think. Iran is 90-95% Shia.

So , as I said , iraq is majority Shia.

 

[Simster]

So , as I said , iraq is majority Shia.

Yes.

 

[alfredmizen]

As are nearly 90% of muslims! The only country in the world with a majority Shia population is Iran I think?

In fact, did you even bother reading the post I was quoting ? You can't have or you wouldn't have posted what you did.

 

[BadFish]

Drawing a line in terms of a countries intake is of critical importance, you and others seem to have no comprehension to the consequence, sustainability, stability and security.

How much more do you think Australia should take and how do you come to that conclusion, otherwise you are just p******g in the wind, you wont be alone I think many European leaders are too.

Once countries decide where they draw the line somebody somewhere is left dealing with the rest of them. Those countries (Jordan, Pakistani, Iran and Syria until recently) don't have the option of drawing the line as they are left to pick up the pieces).

This is why we need international cooperation.

 

[Simster]

In fact, did you even bother reading the post I was quoting ? You can't have or you wouldn't have posted what you did.

Actually I did. It's just that I wasn't adding anything relevant, just as aside. I'm not in a mood for arguing today.

 

[alfredmizen]

Actually I did. It's just that I wasn't adding anything relevant, just as aside. I'm not in a mood for arguing today.

You're on the wrong thread then mate ! Hope nothing serious wrong though.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

In my opinion Cameron has actually got this one right about taking refugees directly from the local camps, rather than those coming through Serbia etc.

I'd take many more though than the 10,000 he is proposing, and for me given a 60 million UK population, we should really be looking at 60 thousand.

 

[BigGully]

Once countries decide where they draw the line somebody somewhere is left dealing with the rest of them. Those countries (Jordan, Pakistani, Iran and Syria until recently) don't have the option of drawing the line as they are left to pick up the pieces).

This is why we need international cooperation.

I agree, although I guess my line has already been drawn whereas your hasnt.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It looks like Austria is now going to reinstate border controls
https://www.rt.com/news/314598-refugees-austria-eu-borders/

 

[BigGully]

In my opinion Cameron has actually got this one right about taking refugees directly from the local camps, rather than those coming through Serbia etc.

I'd take many more though than the 10,000 he is proposing, and for me given a 60 million UK population, we should really be looking at 60 thousand.

On top of the unprecedented mass immigration we have already absorbed !!!

1997 - 47 000 net migration

Labour Government 1997 - 2010 - 3.6 million arrived and a million left.

With the Tories not stopping the flow 100 000's.

So this is on top of who knows 3 million + legals ...........

So I cannot see the logic with the formula of 60 million so take 60 000.

If you consider that our burgeoning population is not a good thing then your formula would be the worst to consider.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

It looks like Austria is now going to reinstate border controls
https://www.rt.com/news/314598-refugees-austria-eu-borders/

I never believe anything that 'Putin Today' reports.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

On top of the unprecedented mass immigration we have already absorbed !!!

1997 - 47 000 net migration

Labour Government 1997 - 2010 - 3.6 million arrived and a million left.

With the Tories not stopping the flow 100 000's.

So this is on top of who knows 3 million + legals ...........

So I cannot see the logic with the formula of 60 million so take 60 000.

If you consider that our burgeoning population is not a good thing then your formula would be the worst to consider.

The logic is 1 emergency refugee per 1000 population.

It is opinion whether or not you happen to agree.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

No, instead of name calling perhaps you'd like to answer my post , you categorically stated that Kurds are different from Sunnis, what was wrong with my post ??

You never actually asked a question - you seem to think your generalisation of Muslim religious identity wins you an argument or discussion. There is a bit more to Muslims and the Middle East than you seem to comprehend. They are not all the same and there are differences between groups that worship the same type God even if they originate from the same religious type.

This might seem alien to you but even in the west we have people that worship the same God but don't go to the same type of churches. Eg Catholic and prodestant, Jehovah's and seventh day Adventists etc etc it's these little differences the racists and bigots don't get so when you say Kurds are Sunni you might have a point but only if you ignore the fact that whilst they have the same God they might be fighting each other?
You might like to investigate who gassed the Kurds as proof of this.
And the blindingly obvious fact that the are called Kurds and want their own lands and territory

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I never believe anything that 'Putin Today' reports.

I like RT. You get both sides of the story.

 

[alfredmizen]

You never actually asked a question - you seem to think your generalisation of Muslim religious identity wins you an argument or discussion. There is a bit more to Muslims and the Middle East than you seem to comprehend. They are not all the same and there are differences between groups that worship the same type God even if they originate from the same religious type.

This might seem alien to you but even in the west we have people that worship the same God but don't go to the same type of churches. Eg Catholic and prodestant, Jehovah's and seventh day Adventists etc etc it's these little differences the racists and bigots don't get so when you say Kurds are Sunni you might have a point but only if you ignore the fact that whilst they have the same God they might be fighting each other?
You might like to investigate who gassed the Kurds as proof of this.
And the blindingly obvious fact that the are called Kurds and want their own lands and territory

can you point out where I've lumped in Muslims/Syrians and the Middle East as one homogenous group ? All I did was point out your glaring inaccuracy in stating that Kurds are different from Sunnis, if you want to point out that Kurds are different from Arabs then say it, at present you're just thrashing around making statements that have very little meaning and seem largely designed to highlight what a knowledgable and humane person you are.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I like RT. You get both sides of the story.

I strongly don't agree, and in my opinion it's 100% Putin's agenda all the way through.

Putin has 2 significant aims :
(1) To stop fracking as it's a threat to Russia's gas economy.
(2) To use every trick in the book to sow disunity in the European Union, and cause as big a break up of it as possible.

RT is just his mouthpiece.