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Trouble at t'mill (copied and pasted from the seagulls msg board



Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Could this happen to you?

You will all be aware of the huge decline in Sheffield Wednesday's
fortunes and might not be surprised to see that we finished in our second lowest position ever last season, with record losses, record debt and the biggest slide of any professional league club in England over the last 5 years.

Two fans who have supported the club for over 35 years each, who are shareholders and who each face near 400 mile round trips just to get to home matches decided to form a peaceful protest group called BLACK BALLOON towards the end of the season and, along with hundreds of frustrated volunteers, organised the distribution of black balloons and red cards at the last 3 home games of the season to show their displeasure at the Board and in particular our Chairman Dave Allen.

At the end of the season, the organisers, who were active participants on the owlstalk message board, then compiled a list of 39 questions that they wanted to ask and wrote to the Chairman to discuss those points in a `mature and non-confrontational fashion'. Dave Allen refused to meet with them, despite him having earlier proclaimed a more open culture at the club.

Last week, those fans were suddenly BANNED from Hillsborough on the eve of the new season, and the Chairman has indicated that he intends to SUE them for libel because of what was posted on message boards and on www.blackballoon.info. They have received no specific details of any libellous posts and there has never been any warning. Both organisers are professional people who have not been anywhere near as outspoken as others on our board and indeed other boards throughout the country, and indeed often provide good argument and back up for their views.

It is a sad day when a football club Chairman threatens legal action against loyal longstanding fans of the club who only have the club's interests at heart. Sadly, it looks like our Chairman and our football club are about to set a precedent here.

It is also concerning that deliberate actions are taken against a
peaceful protest movement to try to quash any opposition in what appears to be an attack on free speech and nothing but victimisation. Against the principles of natural justice they have had no right of appeal and no chance to put their side of the story like they had tried to do when asking to meet the club in May.

Many will feel these actions herald a new low for Sheffield Wednesday, football supporters everywhere and an attack on democracy in general.

Additionally the Chairman has also banned the Owls Trust Chairman from renewing his executive box for £16,000 despite our financial situation, banned the Trust CEO from all non-football functions at the club and ordered the Trust to vacate their office at the ground - all since the Trust held meetings with Ken Bates in respect of his interest in the club.

The Chairman tried to justify his actions by being quoted in the
Sheffield Star newspaper last Saturday as saying 'I'm not having disruptive elements at this club'.

The protestors¿ form of disruption is the right of peaceful protest and the right of free speech, so this is an attack on things that we all understand in football, as true fans of our clubs. Where will it stop?

Could this be you that becomes the next victim or could it be this
message board?

Is our Chairman's action a threat to the relative freedom of speech and debate that has generally existed on football club message boards for a number of years now?

Is it right that he has banned 2 very loyal fans for merely standing up to him and for challenging how he was running the club and for trying to organise peaceful protest?

How would you feel if this all happened to your club and your message board when all those fans were doing was acting with the club's interests at heart and were prepared to stand up and be counted?

As those fans say 'He can ban us, sue us, bully us and victimise us but that will not stop us continuing our protest against him alongside the increasing and vast number of people who have offered sympathy and support to our plight and he will find that we will NOT go away, no matter how long it takes. A few weeks, months or years is nothing in a 35 year love affair and we will still be in love and courting her strongly long after he has been and gone.'

Those fans are asking for support of all football fans throughout the country who are equally loyal to their clubs and might so easily have done the same. Imagine if you received this treatment from your Chairman?

They are conducting an email petition and asking for messages of
support to protestsupport@hotmail.com or alternatively you could go onto the owlstalk message board and post a note of support there. They want to get at least 50,000 messages from true football fans throughout the world to help their cause.

Many thanks and bear in mind that you might have to be very careful what you post on here in future as a consequence of this.
 




harry_h

New member
Dec 30, 2003
741
Hove
Shame Brighton aren't playing Sheff Wed this year. (except FA cup etc.?) i'm sure we would be more than happy to protest
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Has anyone sent a message of support?

How many people would start speaking out if our chairman banned people for protesting about his handling of the club?
 


The libel writs are the same tactics that Archer/Belotti used - pure intimidation, I don't think they ever went anywhere, it was just a silencing tactic. Best wishes to the Sheff fans, their owner is revealed in his true and very ugly light.
 




Gullet

New member
Feb 8, 2004
1,277
Bevendean
Yeah I'm about to send a message of support, this kind of thing makes me really angry. Mind you I think the main disruptive element at their club are the players....................for being so crap!!!!!
:)
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
There is a certain deja vu about what seems to be happening there, Goldstone circa mid 90's. Hope it has a much happier outcome
 








Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,511
On NSC for over two decades...
URL is:

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/index.htm

The site is being updated at the minute, and I can't see where you are supposed to register.

(but that is just 'cos I'm dumb :dunce: Go to the Forums, it'll tell you you aren't logged in, there is a link to register if you scroll down the screen)
 
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