[Albion] Trossard

[blockhseagull]

My problem with him is he doesn’t put in enough performances like Saturday.

Starts the season well, finishes it well but goes missing between November and April.

A player I wouldn’t be pushing out the door, however it a good bid came in I could see the logic in accepting it.

 

[Bodian]

The commentator on my stream (Jacqui Oatley?) said something along the lines of him often playing better when coming back from playing/being with Belgium. Is that something others have noticed?

 

[stewart12]

My problem with him is he doesn’t put in enough performances like Saturday.

Starts the season well, finishes it well but goes missing between November and April.

A player I wouldn’t be pushing out the door, however it a good bid came in I could see the logic in accepting it.

he's basically the new Paul Brooker

 

[lawros left foot]

No surprise to anyone,Newcastle are interested.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-Leandro-Trossard-list-potential-targets.html

Sorry it’s the Mail and so probably bollox.


If it happens, I think we should insist that they call themselves‘Newcastle and Hove Albion’

 

[WATFORD zero]

My problem with him is he doesn’t put in enough performances like Saturday.

Starts the season well, finishes it well but goes missing between November and April.

A player I wouldn’t be pushing out the door, however it a good bid came in I could see the logic in accepting it.

These Belgians, they don't like it up 'em on a wet Tuesday night away in Stoke

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

No surprise to anyone,Newcastle are interested.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-Leandro-Trossard-list-potential-targets.html

Sorry it’s the Mail and so probably bollox.


If it happens, I think we should insist that they call themselves‘Newcastle and Hove Albion’

I feckin hate Newcastle more than Palace.

 

[Swansman]

Tross interview in Belgian HUMO:

Rode Duivel Leandro Trossard: ‘Ik ben hier op dit WK voor meer dan enkel invalbeurten’

Er staat dit jaar geen rem meer op Leandro Trossard (27): de man in vorm bij Brighton scoort zo vlot dat bondscoach Roberto Martínez nog maar moeilijk om hem heen kan. Toch blijft de vraag: krijgt-ie ze of krijgt-ie ze niet, een basisplaats bij de Rode Duivels? Schittert Trossard straks op het...

www.humo.be

Apparently Arsenal were in for Tross when Brighton signed him.
JOSY COMHAIR ( agent ) «Potter came to Brussels especially for Leandro. With an extensive PowerPoint presentation to convince him. He absolutely wanted it."

TROSSARD “ I had done some research and knew that under the previous trainer they had mainly played kick-and-rush. That's why I insisted on a conversation with the new coach: I wanted to know what he stood for. He knows Roberto Martínez well and came to explain his plans to me when we were together with the national team in Tubize. There he took me in for him, I immediately had a good feeling. In the meantime everyone has seen what a good trainer Potter is - Chelsea have not come to snatch him away for nothing. I haven't regretted my choice for Brighton for a second."

COMHAIR «There were other options. In the same period I had several conversations with Arsenal. They came to Belgium four times. I'll give you a note: most players would have chosen Arsenal. But what would have happened if Leandro didn't get to play? Then there is only one way out: to take a step back. People don't realize what that does in someone's head. I know Leandro: bench him three times and he goes wild. So we turned it around: if he does well at Brighton, he doesn't have to back down, he can take a step forward ( grins ). Didn't we get it right?"

Also speaks a fair bit about Brighton, a little about De Zerbi, about his personal life etc. Good interview. Bit too much transfer talk for anyone to feel comfortable though.

 

[Bodian]

Kick & rush?

 

[KZNSeagull]

Tross interview in Belgian HUMO:

Rode Duivel Leandro Trossard: ‘Ik ben hier op dit WK voor meer dan enkel invalbeurten’

Er staat dit jaar geen rem meer op Leandro Trossard (27): de man in vorm bij Brighton scoort zo vlot dat bondscoach Roberto Martínez nog maar moeilijk om hem heen kan. Toch blijft de vraag: krijgt-ie ze of krijgt-ie ze niet, een basisplaats bij de Rode Duivels? Schittert Trossard straks op het...

www.humo.be

Apparently Arsenal were in for Tross when Brighton signed him.
JOSY COMHAIR ( agent ) «Potter came to Brussels especially for Leandro. With an extensive PowerPoint presentation to convince him. He absolutely wanted it."

TROSSARD “ I had done some research and knew that under the previous trainer they had mainly played kick-and-rush. That's why I insisted on a conversation with the new coach: I wanted to know what he stood for. He knows Roberto Martínez well and came to explain his plans to me when we were together with the national team in Tubize. There he took me in for him, I immediately had a good feeling. In the meantime everyone has seen what a good trainer Potter is - Chelsea have not come to snatch him away for nothing. I haven't regretted my choice for Brighton for a second."

COMHAIR «There were other options. In the same period I had several conversations with Arsenal. They came to Belgium four times. I'll give you a note: most players would have chosen Arsenal. But what would have happened if Leandro didn't get to play? Then there is only one way out: to take a step back. People don't realize what that does in someone's head. I know Leandro: bench him three times and he goes wild. So we turned it around: if he does well at Brighton, he doesn't have to back down, he can take a step forward ( grins ). Didn't we get it right?"

Also speaks a fair bit about Brighton, a little about De Zerbi, about his personal life etc. Good interview. Bit too much transfer talk for anyone to feel comfortable though.

So is he now happy to sit on the bench at a top club? He is not consistent enough to be a regular starter

 

[Jesus Gul]

'Didn't we get it right?'
yes pat yourself on the back and take that big chunk of transfer fee

 

[Swansman]

So is he now happy to sit on the bench at a top club? He is not consistent enough to be a regular starter

There's a lot of players not consistent enough to be regular starters who are regular starters anyway. Arsenal has a bunch of players who throughout the years have been very up and down, doesn't stop them from topping the league.

 

[KZNSeagull]

There's a lot of players not consistent enough to be regular starters who are regular starters anyway. Arsenal has a bunch of players who throughout the years have been very up and down, doesn't stop them from topping the league.

Ok, but is Trossard now happy to sit on the bench at a top club?

 

[Swansman]

Ok, but is Trossard now happy to sit on the bench at a top club?

Maybe he thinks he's good enough to play most games?

 

[Robdinho]

And he's probably reached a point in his career where he feels he has nothing to lose by trying.

He has proved he is more than capable of playing in the Premier league, so if he goes to a Champions League club and 'fails', the step down won't be anywhere as significant as it would have been if he'd come direct from Belgium

 

[Icy Gull]

This from Romano the self appointed font of all football transfer knowledge about the interview - I really hope he's right in his last sentence

Trossard and his representatives aren’t currently in talks with Arsenal, with Chelsea the only side thought currently to be in the running for his signature, and as Romano explained, it’s nothing out of the ordinary for the agents of top players to hold conversations with multiple clubs.

“Leandro Trossard’s agent has been speaking about holding talks with Arsenal a few years ago, and this has inevitably attracted a lot of interest,” Romano said.

“This might not come across in the agent’s interview, but it was nothing serious – it’s normal for agents of talented players to have many conversations with top clubs around Europe and that’s what happened. It was never an advanced negotiation with Arsenal.

“Trossard is now performing great for Brighton. I think he’s very good player but I don’t see him leaving in January.”

 

[b.w.2.]

This from Romano the self appointed font of all football transfer knowledge about the interview - I really hope he's right in his last sentence

Trossard and his representatives aren’t currently in talks with Arsenal, with Chelsea the only side thought currently to be in the running for his signature, and as Romano explained, it’s nothing out of the ordinary for the agents of top players to hold conversations with multiple clubs.

“Leandro Trossard’s agent has been speaking about holding talks with Arsenal a few years ago, and this has inevitably attracted a lot of interest,” Romano said.

“This might not come across in the agent’s interview, but it was nothing serious – it’s normal for agents of talented players to have many conversations with top clubs around Europe and that’s what happened. It was never an advanced negotiation with Arsenal.

“Trossard is now performing great for Brighton. I think he’s very good player but I don’t see him leaving in January.”

Well if Romano says he is staying in January then he must be

 

[dwayne]

I think we all know he won't leave in January. Brighton don't sell in January unless extenuating circumstances. Summer is a different matter though.

 

[Lurchy]

The more quotes I read, the more certain I become that he’ll be off in the summer.

He’s at a point where this is likely his last chance to move to a ‘big’ club, play European club competitions and also significantly increase his wages.

Trust Tony to get the best deal possible and also secure the best replacement possible in the summer.

 

[Braggfan]

I agree with those saying he won't be off in January. But also think the summer could be important. We'll certainly take up the year extension on his contract, and try and get him to sign a new one. If he won't then we'll sell him in the summer for the best price we can get.

In the scenario where he leaves, it would likely be to a champions league club, and whether that's Arsenal, Chelsea or Newcastle, I don't think anyone could seriously begrudge him that opportunity at this stage of his career.

However, personally I'm not 100% sure he will go. I was 100% sure Bissouma & Ben white would go, but Trossard has said a few things about how much he loves being here, how he feels he's playing well, and its important to him to be playing everygame. I think he's smart enough to know he won't necessarily get that at Chelsea or Arsenal. Maybe it's just me looking at things through my blue and white tinted spectacles but I think there's still a chance he might do a Mac Allister and sign an extension. Don't get me wrong, I still realise its likely that he will go to a bigger club in the summer, but just not a certainty like some of our previous transfers.

 

[JBizzle]

I agree with those saying he won't be off in January. But also think the summer could be important. We'll certainly take up the year extension on his contract, and try and get him to sign a new one. If he won't then we'll sell him in the summer for the best price we can get.

In the scenario where he leaves, it would likely be to a champions league club, and whether that's Arsenal, Chelsea or Newcastle, I don't think anyone could seriously begrudge him that opportunity at this stage of his career.

However, personally I'm not 100% sure he will go. I was 100% sure Bissouma & Ben white would go, but Trossard has said a few things about how much he loves being here, how he feels he's playing well, and its important to him to be playing everygame. I think he's smart enough to know he won't necessarily get that at Chelsea or Arsenal. Maybe it's just me looking at things through my blue and white tinted spectacles but I think there's still a chance he might do a Mac Allister and sign an extension. Don't get me wrong, I still realise its likely that he will go to a bigger club in the summer, but just not a certainty like some of our previous transfers.

I hope you're right, but I suspect you may be disappointed. The big difference is their ages and relative contracts.

Age:

• Trossard is 28 next month and his next move may be his last chance to earn a mega-money deal somewhere - He'll be 29 when his contract ends and potentially less attractive to perceived "top" clubs
• Mac Allister is 23 and has the whole of his prime ahead of him. In 4 years time, he'll still be in a position to command a big fee and wage if he carries on as he is. A big money move isn't as pressing a concern as it is for Trossard.

Contract Terms:

• Trossard was a sizeable signing when he arrived (£18m fee, Belgian PotY and golden boot) so has a pretty decent contract
• Running it down, although not as lucrative as renewing won't have as big an impact as with Mac Allister because...
• Mac Allister was a relative youngster and more of a risk so his wages would have been much lower than our established first teamers
• His new contract was as much about getting him on fairer terms commensurate with his place in the team as much as securing him long term and as such was more mutually beneficial