Train Crashes in Lake District

[Barrel of Fun]

BBC says 8 passengers have serious injuries, but non life-threatening. I don't know how up to date that is.

When do they start saying life threatening? I can't imagine that none of these injuries are not life threatening. Is it to avoid panic or has everyone been lucky, so far?

Ps Echo your sentiments for the rescuers and rescuees.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Been watching Sky and they seem to say only one carriage has been cleared.

Then that really doesn't seem to be good news...

 

[Beach Hut]

So far there is no footage on Sky of any passenger being evacuated.

 

[Beach Hut]

Sorry to say this but the Sky lady is dumber than dumb - asking BTPP what caused the accident, FFS as if they would know.

4 critical people at Preston hospital and 4 others being flown there.

 

[Bry Nylon]

When do they start saying life threatening? I can't imagine that none of these injuries are not life threatening. Is it to avoid panic or has everyone been lucky, so far?

Ps Echo your sentiments for the rescuers and rescuees.

"Life threatening / critical " are serious head injuires, massive trauma (ie - limbs lost, severe internal injuies / cardiac arrest etc).
Essentially, they are the people who have to be extracated and got into surgury within the 'Golden Hour.'
Where an extracation will take longer than that, I have seen Emergency Doctors and paramedics operate on casualties on the scene, literally as we try to cut them out. Those Doctors and paramedics are some of the bravest and most talented people I have ever meet.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

"Life threatening / critical " are serious head injuires, massive trauma (ie - limbs lost, severe internal injuies / cardiac arrest etc).
Essentially, they are the people who have to be extracated and got into surgury within the 'Golden Hour.'
Where an extracation will take longer than that, I have seen Emergency Doctors and paramedics operate on casualties on the scene, literally as we try to cut them out. Those Doctors and paramedics are some of the bravest and most talented people I have ever meet.

Wowsers. I thought (not deeply) that TV dramatised that sort of thing. I am proud to have such the honourable occupation of a housing consultant.

 

[Beach Hut]

This is weird as BBC are stating all carriages now cleared so it is very difficult to understand what is going on.

 

[Gully]

I watched a little on the BBC, they had a really good interview with a fairly young sounding woman...you could tell that the newsreader was thinking that it was a mistake as soon as she started speaking, fair play that he ploughed on with several questions that she struggled to answer, before thanking her and moving on to the next interviewee.

 

[Bry Nylon]

Wowsers. I thought (not deeply) that TV dramatised that sort of thing.

No, it happens for real. Invariably, it is dark, freezing cold and pouring with rain and these guys get right in there, with their fluid sets, trauma kits and computers, with our cutting gear operaing just inches away from them. Quite often, they are talking to / sending pictures back to the hospital at the same time.

They bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "calm and collected."

 

[Gully]

Yup, I have a friend in Gloucester who is a paramedic, loads of respect for her as the job is pretty thankless at times...and they get paid peanuts for the pleasure.

 

[Beach Hut]

The news seems much better now as no fatalities at present and the train is cleared.

I hope so and well done to all those involved.

 

[Bry Nylon]

 

[Bry Nylon]

The news seems much better now as no fatalities at present and the train is cleared.

I hope so and well done to all those involved.

NEWS 24 now reporting at least one fatality

 

[Les Biehn]

I have weirdly ambiguous feelings when these things happen. I know people will say I'm out of order but these 'acts of god' just don't touch me in any particular way. I think its because I just find them unavoidable and in no way a comment on the state of humanity. It doesn't worry me about geting run over because if it happens it happens. I absolutely feel for the families but other than that it doesn't really impact on me the way a mass shooting of war atrocities would.

 

[Beach Hut]

NEWS 24 now reporting at least one fatality

Sadly so - RIP

 

[KNC]

As an ex railwayman of 25yrs, I can say that a lot of blx has, as usual, been broadcast tonight. I really have heard some shite, el al 'drop the dead donkey'. eg, there may be some electricity left in the wires' FFS!!!!!!

I truly hope, none of my brothers have been hurt.

I may be wrong, but this sounds like a landslip, derailing.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Trains are built to withstand quite horrendous crashes and most passengers usually survive derailments. Collisions at speed are something else, of course.

Let's hope for as short a list of serious casualties and fatalities as possible.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

As an ex railwayman of 25yrs, I can say that a lot of blx has, as usual, been broadcast tonight.

Like this (from the BBC website):-

Rail expert Christian Wolmar said it was too early to speculate on the cause of the crash, but he said that a broken rail would be one possibility.

"It could also be that the train was going too fast or it could be some other kind of mechanical failure. It could even have been an obstruction on the line," Mr Wolmar said.



Too early to speculate, eh? Obviously not.

Christian Wolmar is ...

... a journalist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Wolmar

 

[Yorkie]

One dead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6391633.stm

 

[Yorkie]

Live coverage on BBC now. There is speculation that land slippage caused a problem with the points.