Total and absolute Over reaction

[Albion Rob]

As far as I could see, the first goal went an 'unstoppable' SIX feet inside James' left hand post and the second was hit at an ;unstoppable' 15mph and squirmed under his body.

To be honest, and I do think James is a good shot stopper even if he doesn't inspire all round confidence, you have to ask why we are persevering with a 34-year-old at this stage. If he was in his mid 20s then fair enough but the only way international keepers get bvetter is experience. To that end I think robinson should get the chance to establish himself and m,ayne it could be a position we don't have to worry about for the next 10 years.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

alan shearer- england manager!!!

 

[alan partridge]

What is going on with the English Press.

On Saturday, apart from the last 20 minutes of the game, we totally dominated an international team AWAY from home. We restricted them to a couple of shots before they scored and could have scored a few more goals than we did.

The first goal was a free kick which was a tremendous free kick which I don't think any goalkeeper would have saved, from a "push" on a forward who dived as if he had been shot, secondly, the second goal was a speculative shot which went under the goalkeeper's body, which happens!

To demand Beckham and Sven resign is just totally rediculous. If I was Sven I would tell the Brits to f*** off and would go back to Sweden. He has presided over the building of a tremendous team ( I remember when we used to embarrass ourselves in World Cup qualificatio and European Championships), he is a respected coach who has been chased by the top clubs in Europe...if we are that ungrateful, then perhaps we deserve managers of England like Vennables and Keegan.

Who next then? Peter Taylor?

totally agree

 

[Icy Gull]

Wouldn't anyone like to see England plan for the future? Forget all the old stalwarts and just once let's try and build a young team that will possibly win things in 4 to 6 years.

Every meaningful game England play is a cup final and played with fear and without risk. I'd willingly give up a World Cup or Euro qualifyer to give us time to build a decent team. I'm sick of hearing that we haven't got the players because I think we have. We just play them way beyond their best years because they just might turn a game - Beckham and Owen being prime examples.

The French who did exactly what I am suggesting and after one missed Euro final as they built a team, won the World Cup and then the Euros. They may be struggling at the moment but they are in the process of rebuiding and will no doubt be better than England again by the next World Cup.

What have we got to lose except the hysteria of how well England are going to do before they inevitably bow out in a lacklustre way?

 

[alan partridge]

Wouldn't anyone like to see England plan for the future? Forget all the old stalwarts and just once let's try and build a young team that will possibly win things in 4 to 6 years.

Every meaningful game England play is a cup final and played with fear and without risk. I'd willingly give up a World Cup or Euro qualifyer to give us time to build a decent team. I'm sick of hearing that we haven't got the players because I think we have. We just play them way beyond their best years because they just might turn a game - Beckham and Owen being prime examples.

The French who did exactly what I am suggesting and after one missed Euro final as they built a team, won the World Cup and then the Euros. They may be struggling at the moment but they are in the process of rebuiding and will no doubt be better than England again by the next World Cup.

What have we got to lose except the hysteria of how well England are going to do before they inevitably bow out in a lacklustre way?

EHHHHH?!?

I can't believe I am reading this. This England team is one of the youngest I can remember. How many of the first teamers are over 30?

All this building for the future stuff was being talked about when Keegan left after the APPALLING displays in Euro 2000 and we were BOTTOM of our group. Sven came in, got us qualified top of the group and gave us a world cup that lasted longer than a week and a bit. We may have had some lacklustre performances under him but what manager DON'T you get that under?

Terry Venables better than Sven? How the hell can anyone say that . He onlyhad 5 competitive games in charge. Drew rubbishly with Switzerland. Beat Scotland Ok but what if that penalty had gone in. Storming performance against Holland. Got out of Jail against Spain. Usual penalty f*** up against you know who. How is that an amazing record?

Everyone thinks they know better than the England manager it makes me laugh/cry.

 

[Icy Gull]

EHHHHH?!?

. This England team is one of the youngest I can remember. How many of the first teamers are over 30?

.

Missed the Austria game so maybe I'm missing something but when was the last time you saw an England team play without fear and put in a complete performance??

 

[alan partridge]

Missed the Austria game so maybe I'm missing something but when was the last time you saw an England team play without fear and put in a complete performance??

1966 world cup?

joking aside, how often does that happen? Really, how often does it happen? Infact I would say a complete performance almost NEVER happens with England.

With Sven though I think we have had a good number of classic England performances WHEN IT MATTERS

The last 2 competitions we have qualified without going through the play offs

Euro 2000 we SCRAPED through against scotland and then, frankly, embarrassed ourselves in the competition. we were awful.

France 98, the usual good result, bad result, good result, f*** up

euro 96, didn't have to qualify, by no means were the best team in the tournament. Spain should have won easily.

1994 we didn't even sodding qualify

1992 rubbish again

we've got some consistency, and we have a young team, for me Sven must stay for the next world cup

 

[CHAPPERS]

Germany 1-5 England

 

[Icy Gull]

Germany 1-5 England

Exactly. A game where it looked like the wheels had come off and we were on our way out. A quick reply to the German goal and the team suddenly believed in themselves and played with a swagger I hadn't seen since the Holland thrashing.

Now why can't Sven bring this out in the current England team. Simple he's the wrong man for the job.
Your comment on another thread about hoping Beckham can't play because you want to see Wright-Phillips sums it up. Sven wil take the safe route and play the old maestro if he can. We'll win feck all under him EVER because he has no flair and his teams play with fear. Might work in the Italian League but it's killing the England football team.

 

[alan partridge]

Exactly. A game where it looked like the wheels had come off and we were on our way out. A quick reply to the German goal and the team suddenly believed in themselves and played with a swagger I hadn't seen since the Holland thrashing.

Now why can't Sven bring this out in the current England team. Simple he's the wrong man for the job.
Your comment on another thread about hoping Beckham can't play because you want to see Wright-Phillips sums it up. Sven wil take the safe route and play the old maestro if he can. We'll win feck all under him EVER because he has no flair and his teams play with fear. Might work in the Italian League but it's killing the England football team.

er you do remember Sven was the manager then don't you? Were you celebrating like a lunatic that night? That incredible, unimaginable night of English football. Or were you sitting at home saying 'well, Sven takes no credit for it in my opinion, blah blah blah'.

What England team has ever played with flair? You mention Holland. What other match in that competition did we play as well as that? None of them. England pull out performances like that every now and again. No manager gets them playing like that all the time. Sven killing English football is cloud cuckoo land.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Dave

England are shit, always have been, always will be.

Is that clear ?.

Regards.

GG

 

[Icy Gull]

Sven did a fantastic job after taking over from Keegan, I completely agree and he will probably qualify us for the next World Cup.

He is however a defensive manager and imo his style does not suit English football. It is ideal for the Italian League which is where he made his name and actually won things. If you are not able to agree that his negative and fearful tactics cost us a possible World Cup and the game against Portugal, we'll just have to agree to differ.

Being happy qualifying for the World Cup or the Euros and going out feebly, by bad management primarily, in the 1/4 finals is not good enough for me

 

[alan partridge]

Well I agree with you to an extent there, but I really think he deserves another shot at the World Cup.

I think it would be a disaster to get rid of him now.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

He will probably qualify us will he ?.

What with the might of

Wales
Austria
Azerbajan
Poland
Northern Ireland

Are you sure.

Gee wiz, well done Sven.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

England were 1/25 to qualify and we are already making heavy weather of it !.

 

[alan partridge]

one game gone

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Dave - Venables produced a team that would have thrashed this current England team. Just imo like

venables didnt have to go through all this as we had qualified as hosts, so sven has done better he has got us to two finals and 1.4 in both times

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

I used to be a Sven fan, but if he is so utterly inflexible as to play players on form or ability, why is he there? We need to be winning matches, so why is Bridge on the left wing, especially with SW-P storming the premiership at the moment? We have an utter donkey in goal and a young, confident, in-form keeper on the bench - WTF!?

Robinson, Wright-Phillips, Defoe in, or Sven out.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

beckham should we dropped as well on form

 

[beorhthelm]

thats the problem with Sven - he is fixated by the best players. He will pick the absolute best 11 from those not injured, irrespective of their form and irrespective of the "team".

I just want to see an actual left footed attack minded winger playing on the left of midfield. I dont care if that means that a "better" player has to sacrificed, it will give us options and create chances that we simply dont have at the moment.