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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
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sorry, you want the state to pump near £4bn in to a business with unproven technology and no customers?
I'd rather the state punt £4bn on emerging technology that would be on line within 5 years than many times that on nuclear power stations that won't be operating for a decade.

The U.K. Is missing the boat on development and it needs to be developed under a state owned growth fund.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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West is BEST
I agree Cameron is responsible for the shit show we have now. It's like a school teacher saying they were just nipping out and never came back.
But there appears to be no actual alternative that can galvanise the country.
The opposition can't even agree with themselves, anyone who even speaks diffsrently is stupid, the country is gone..
But in the morning, we wake up, life is still good.
You think life is still good for everyone?

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TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Here we go....

Patients should be charged for GP appointments and A&E visits, Sajid Javid has said, as he called the present model of the NHS “unsustainable”.

The former health secretary said “extending the contributory principle” should be part of radical reforms to tackle growing waiting times.
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Here we go....

Patients should be charged for GP appointments and A&E visits, Sajid Javid has said, as he called the present model of the NHS “unsustainable”.

The former health secretary said “extending the contributory principle” should be part of radical reforms to tackle growing waiting times.
They'll be hard at work now looking for possibilities to bring in private companies at huge cost, getting friends and relatives setting up those private companies and figuring out a way of illegally awarding contracts completely dependant on being referred by Ministers, MPs, SPADS and donors.

Because they would never bleed money out of the NHS like that would they. Luckily we actually only voted for another 2 years of this :dunce:
 
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chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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I'd rather the state punt £4bn on emerging technology that would be on line within 5 years than many times that on nuclear power stations that won't be operating for a decade.

The U.K. Is missing the boat on development and it needs to be developed under a state owned growth fund.

Absolutely. We’re so completely backwards at the moment, missing opportunities to develop battery technology and expertise in harnessing tidal power, and instead granting licenses for new coal mines.

We do look like the Ralph Wiggum of the international community. It’s embarrassing. The world has moved on around us, and here’s us, fighting the battles of the 20th Century.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
there's one factory in Sunderland doing similar (owned by China) and over 30 factories in the EU in various stages of development looking to steal the march of progress in this.
Germany has had huge foreign investment regarding these chip and battery things. I read they literally use Brexit and the general instability of the UK in their sales pitch.

 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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sorry, you want the state to pump near £4bn in to a business with unproven technology and no customers?
Given the UK government’s recent woeful history with tech absolutely no.
 




WATFORD zero

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Absolutely. We’re so completely backwards at the moment, missing opportunities to develop battery technology and expertise in harnessing tidal power, and instead granting licenses for new coal mines.

We do look like the Ralph Wiggum of the international community. It’s embarrassing. The world has moved on around us, and here’s us, fighting the battles of the 20th Century.
This current cabal know they only have another 2 years until they sink into oblivion and the Conservatives start working on getting their party back. The next 2 years will be exactly like the first 3 with them concentrating solely on lining their pockets while they can and fuelling culture wars to try to hang on to power for as long as possible, and **** what happens to the country.

Incredible though it seems, 5 years of absolutely no leadership, complete incompetence and no plan other than bleeding the system dry is going to take decades to recover from with a lot of suffering for normal people :shrug:
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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there's one factory in Sunderland doing similar (owned by China) and over 30 factories in the EU in various stages of development looking to steal the march of progress in this.
right, we are building capacity for batteries. shouldnt pour public money in to another without clear demand. then 5 years later we're complaining how we spent all the money on unusable batteries and why didnt we spend that on something else. much better to money spent on nuclear tech (SMR) that will solve a very pressing problem of generating enough power in near term.
 


Thunder Bolt

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right, we are building capacity for batteries. shouldnt pour public money in to another without clear demand. then 5 years later we're complaining how we spent all the money on unusable batteries and why didnt we spend that on something else. much better to money spent on nuclear tech (SMR) that will solve a very pressing problem of generating enough power in near term.
You already have peer reviews of the batteries being unusuable? Remarkable.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Pathetic really, isn’t it. Utterly contemptible. Headlines all concerning the wrong-doings of our esteemed leaders. Most of them concerning their efforts to evade blame.

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TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Ministers were using the electric car battery maker Britishvolt as a prime example of the government’s record for “securing business investment in the UK” just months before the scheme collapsed without any public investment.

The company, once heralded as Britain’s potential champion for battery making, fell into administration last week after the failure of last-ditch talks to find emergency funding to keep it afloat. Its demise has been criticised as showing the government’s lack of industrial strategy, the shortcomings of “levelling up” and Britain’s failure to grasp new manufacturing opportunities in the wake of Brexit.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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May 8, 2018
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Not sure about the customers, but I feel batteries are a fairly well-proven technology.

This was the flagship levelling up poster company for our new “Levelled Up” Britain. Though we both know that it was always a fig leaf to hide the absence of any form of long term industrial strategy.
Im sure a well connected do gooder will be along soon to purchase the company at. 5 pence in the pound and remind us of why this is great opportunity for public funding investment

#OurFuture
 








Dick Swiveller

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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
Pathetic really, isn’t it. Utterly contemptible. Headlines all concerning the wrong-doings of our esteemed leaders. Most of them concerning their efforts to evade blame.

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Digging in, with fellow offshorers in Tory party showing their support.

Estimated net worth £100m, too much is never enough
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Nadhim Zahawi wrongly told officials that he had not exchanged WhatsApp messages with David Cameron before it emerged that they had been deleted from his phone, The Times can disclose.

 


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