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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...













stewart12

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Jan 16, 2019
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I missed that referendum....

also, whilst I disagreed with that invasion personally, there was a general election very shortly after which Labour comfortably won
 




nicko31

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Gods country fortnightly


beorhthelm

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I'm sure this will feature heavily in The Sun, The Express, The Mail, The Telegraph, The Spectator and a few weird TV channels in the coming days. They'll be hold the government's feet to the fire demanding answers..
they probably will - the revenue is coming from raises to corp tax, energy levy, frozen allowances on higher rates. they'll be calling for tax cuts.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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I associate Labour with Arthur Scargill and his bunch of idiots and always will. Not my kind of people. And then there was Tony Blair who tried to update their image and what did he do? Take us into an illegal and disasterous war against the will of the people.
You do realise that the Tories would have had us in that war twice as quickly don't you.

84 Labour MPs voted against, and 69 abstained. 2 and 17 were the equivalent for the Tories.
 








dsr-burnley

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Aug 15, 2014
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So essentially you want British people to pay millions of pounds to US Healthcare service for worse services. And that's your priority in life?
Are there any other healthcare systems apart from the UK and the USA? It seems to be a general assumption that there are no alternatives to the NHS, the system that used to be called the "envy of the world", other than the US model. Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have healthcare systems that we could investigate?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Are there any other healthcare systems apart from the UK and the USA? It seems to be a general assumption that there are no alternatives to the NHS, the system that used to be called the "envy of the world", other than the US model. Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have healthcare systems that we could investigate?
There are indeed, but look at what is actually happening and who, in government, has shares in medical insurance. Why was health data being included in trade talks?
 








The Clamp

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Thankfully Braverman’s borderline fascist speech, given to a right wing cohort in the US and intended for the ears of the permanently dimwitted in the U.K. has been almost universally derided by anyone with a passing interest in intelligence.
 


chickens

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Are there any other healthcare systems apart from the UK and the USA? It seems to be a general assumption that there are no alternatives to the NHS, the system that used to be called the "envy of the world", other than the US model. Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have healthcare systems that we could investigate?

There are and we should, but it’s US healthcare companies that have been lobbying and fighting their way in to what they believe to be a lucrative untapped market over decades, so it would undoubtedly be a US style system we ended up with. It’s dreadful and inhumane and people die in pain and debt because of it.
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Thankfully Braverman’s borderline fascist speech, given to a right wing cohort in the US and intended for the ears of the permanently dimwitted in the U.K. has been almost universally derided by anyone with a passing interest in intelligence.
Several gay Tory MPs have apparently spoken to the Chief Whip about her.
 


The Clamp

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Several gay Tory MPs have apparently spoken to the Chief Whip about her.
Good. It has not been well received by many influential factions in the Tory party.

A misjudged speech designed to appeal to the far right sector of the electorate.

A tactic that only ever results in misadventure. See the 2016 Brexit referendum, brought about by Cameron seeing to appease the right and resulting in our exit from the EU. An act that has failed by every single measure that it’s been held up to.
 




A1X

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Deepest, darkest Sussex
 


Scappa

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Good. It has not been well received by many influential factions in the Tory party.

A misjudged speech designed to appeal to the far right sector of the electorate.

A tactic that only ever results in misadventure. See the 2016 Brexit referendum, brought about by Cameron seeing to appease the right and resulting in our exit from the EU. An act that has failed by every single measure that it’s been held up to.
You mean one can get on a bus and still hear people speaking in Polish?! Give us back our old fashioned lightbulbs instead of these WOKE energy efficient ones those BASTARDS in BRUSSELS are FORCING us to use :tantrum:
 


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