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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...







Ooh it’s a corner

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Things are very bad with this load of charlatans but I see Sunak has got in just before the deadline and signed Coutinho………
…….as the new Energy Secretary - tbf he(she) can’t be any worse than the last eejit
 


The Clamp

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Things are very bad with this load of charlatans but I see Sunak has got in just before the deadline and signed Coutinho………
…….as the new Energy Secretary - tbf he(she) can’t be any worse than the last eejit
Oh, they can always be worse. That’s what they specialise in.
 


The Clamp

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Woe betide anyone trying to get the 700 through Shoreham once the monstrosities on the riverbank have been completed - or indeed trying to get a doctor's appointment locally.
But but but aren’t we all supposed to hail the dawn of a New Shoreham. Riverside living etc?

The millionaires from London need a seaside sanctuary surely!?

They’ve turned Shoreham into an overcrowded cliche.

And there are only 5 more blocks to go up 😞
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Oh, they can always be worse. That’s what they specialise in.
Does this mean we have to pray for Cruella Braverman to stay in post because she could be replaced by somebody worse! you can not be serious!
 






A1X

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So essentially, instead of paying to rebuild unsafe schools, they decided to not bother and cut the funding. Feels like quite an abrogation of responsibility for a Government.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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So essentially, instead of paying to rebuild unsafe schools, they decided to not bother and cut the funding. Feels like quite an abrogation of responsibility for a Government.

That's the nature of austerity. It's to make sure it's the other party that has to raise the taxes.

But like Raac, the tories have survived longer than anyone thought possible, so they're having to clean up their own s*** for a change
 




nicko31

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So essentially, instead of paying to rebuild unsafe schools, they decided to not bother and cut the funding. Feels like quite an abrogation of responsibility for a Government.

Keegan has been climbing the greasy pole for years lying low, no where to hide now.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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Keegan has been climbing the greasy pole for years lying low, no where to hide now.
Is this landing at Keegan's door? It was Sunak who was presented with evidence of risk to life and refused funding while in the treasury.

People now directly seeing the impact of tory incompetence and austerity. And it goes all the way to the top.
 


pb21

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Is this landing at Keegan's door? It was Sunak who was presented with evidence of risk to life and refused funding while in the treasury.

People now directly seeing the impact of tory incompetence and austerity. And it goes all the way to the top.
Yes, its hard not to see how this is very much due to Tory policy and/or incompetence. Seems like those chickens are now coming home to roost...
 




beorhthelm

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Is this landing at Keegan's door? It was Sunak who was presented with evidence of risk to life and refused funding while in the treasury.

People now directly seeing the impact of tory incompetence and austerity. And it goes all the way to the top.
interesting who is supposed to be to blame. in Scotland and Wales they are accusing their national education department leaders for failure on the same issue. seems it's a good stick to beat anyone with, so many failed to cover simple risks and remediation.
 


pb21

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interesting who is supposed to be to blame. in Scotland and Wales they are accusing their national education department leaders for failure on the same issue. seems it's a good stick to beat anyone with, so many failed to cover simple risks and remediation.
Isn't this an issue that has reached this point through a lack of funding? Education budgets reduced such that they are essentially working on a day-by-day basis, incentivised through necessity to be very short-term looking only?

If so I think it would be fair to 'blame' those who set the budgets.

Of course there are real world issues in the mix too and no easy decisions, but this does, to me, seem like the direct impact, albeit unwanted, of a chosen policy.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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interesting who is supposed to be to blame. in Scotland and Wales they are accusing their national education department leaders for failure on the same issue. seems it's a good stick to beat anyone with, so many failed to cover simple risks and remediation.
So who do you think is to blame?
 




beorhthelm

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So who do you think is to blame?
probably whoever is responsible for maintenance and management of the estate. obvious to blame politicans, just interesting there are many different politicans involved in this matter. they all got it wrong. much is said about budgets, seems to me it's more a prioritisation issue.
 


chickens

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All of this goes back to the fundamental failure of modern Conservatism :- it is cheaper in the long term to maintain Public Services than run them into the ground and then pay to rebuild them.

The modern Conservative Party hopes that each time it runs public services into the ground, “free market” alternatives will take root and supplant the public service. However, in many (most) cases, the public pays to rebuild the public service back to a working level.

The Conservatives don’t mind, because the rebuilding usually happens under a Labour government, which gives the Conservatives the opportunity to say they’ll cut tax by running our services into the ground again.

At some point the British electorate has to stop falling for this. Please.
 


worthingweird

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Mar 8, 2023
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All of this goes back to the fundamental failure of modern Conservatism :- it is cheaper in the long term to maintain Public Services than run them into the ground and then pay to rebuild them.

The modern Conservative Party hopes that each time it runs public services into the ground, “free market” alternatives will take root and supplant the public service. However, in many (most) cases, the public pays to rebuild the public service back to a working level.

The Conservatives don’t mind, because the rebuilding usually happens under a Labour government, which gives the Conservatives the opportunity to say they’ll cut tax by running our services into the ground again.

At some point the British electorate has to stop falling for this. Please.
Bored now bud...
 






Adders1

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Jan 14, 2013
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All of this goes back to the fundamental failure of modern Conservatism :- it is cheaper in the long term to maintain Public Services than run them into the ground and then pay to rebuild them.

The modern Conservative Party hopes that each time it runs public services into the ground, “free market” alternatives will take root and supplant the public service. However, in many (most) cases, the public pays to rebuild the public service back to a working level.

The Conservatives don’t mind, because the rebuilding usually happens under a Labour government, which gives the Conservatives the opportunity to say they’ll cut tax by running our services into the ground again.

At some point the British electorate has to stop falling for this.

This

I wonder which companies will be getting the contracts for supplying the ‘temporary classrooms’
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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probably whoever is responsible for maintenance and management of the estate. obvious to blame politicans, just interesting there are many different politicans involved in this matter. they all got it wrong. much is said about budgets, seems to me it's more a prioritisation issue.
So if you were going to guess, who would this be?
 


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