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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Wouldn't say it was small. 10% up,

Tories 15% down as well.

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Merton and Wandsworth was 5.1% swing I read. It's effectively a Labour area now after years of Conservative rule.

So many residents must have voted Labour in General Elections but Conservative locally for years. Since Labour have been in a for a while I suspect fears of losing their low council tax have drifted away.
 




The Clamp

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Hugo Rune

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Merton and Wandsworth was 5.1% swing I read. It's effectively a Labour area now after years of Conservative rule.

So many residents must have voted Labour in General Elections but Conservative locally for years. Since Labour have been in a for a while I suspect fears of losing their low council tax have drifted away.

Still some votes to count but Khan is surely safe. What I find mind blowing is that almost 400k have voted for Hall. She is a disgrace. She even pretended to get pick pocketed on the tube when she lost her purse for cheap political point scoring. When it was returned to her by a kind passenger, the nasty shit still claimed that she ‘may have been pick pocketed’ even though nothing was taken. That little episode sums her up. I suspect she’ll still get into the Lords in the Prime Miniature’s leaving honours though.


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Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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Still some votes to count but Khan is surely safe. What I find mind blowing is that almost 400k have voted for Hall. She is a disgrace. She even pretended to get pick pocketed on the tube when she lost her purse for cheap political point scoring. When it was returned to her by a kind passenger, the nasty shit still claimed that she ‘may have been pick pocketed’ even though nothing was taken. That little episode sums her up. I suspect she’ll still get into the Lords in the Prime Miniature’s leaving honours though.


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I think the electoral commission might having a word over some of her campaigning tactics. She has sailed very close to the wind and may well come a cropper.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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I think the electoral commission might having a word over some of her campaigning tactics. She has sailed very close to the wind and may well come a cropper.
The utter oddness is that Khan is beatable. He's very average and not great at public speaking. He also has the tendency to come across at times a bit nasty.

Why on earth did they pick such an awful candidate and run such a very narrow negative campaign ?
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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The Liberal Democrats now have 520 councillors, and the Conservatives have 508. It is now clear to us with just the one council to go that the Liberal Democrats will end up having won more council seats than the Conservatives in these local elections.
 






Deportivo Seagull

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Jul 22, 2003
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The utter oddness is that Khan is beatable. He's very average and not great at public speaking. He also has the tendency to come across at times a bit nasty.

Why on earth did they pick such an awful candidate and run such a very narrow negative campaign ?
Because many in the party don’t see her that way. They think she has all the characteristics that they like in a person.
 


Me Atome

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Mar 10, 2024
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The utter oddness is that Khan is beatable. He's very average and not great at public speaking. He also has the tendency to come across at times a bit nasty.

Why on earth did they pick such an awful candidate and run such a very narrow negative campaign ?
Good question. Perhaps none of the better potential candidates actually want the job, or maybe don't want to been seen as a losing candidate. I think Blair was being very clever in setting up these new posts as "mayor" of London, Manchester etc. He knew that big metropolitan areas tend to be labour dominated, so having a winner-takes-all mayor always has a very good chance of being labour. Only Johnson has beaten that so far in London.
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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The utter oddness is that Khan is beatable. He's very average and not great at public speaking. He also has the tendency to come across at times a bit nasty.

Why on earth did they pick such an awful candidate and run such a very narrow negative campaign ?
Didn't they do the same thing in 2016 and spend most of the time going on about how he was going to come after your GOLD rather than actually presenting any sort of positive vision?

I lived in Croydon at the time (I didn't see any of the aforementioned leaflets myself, presumably it wasn't the sort of area they thought would be interested in such concerns) and I didn't vote for him because I found him uninspiring and basically untrustworthy given his flip-flopping over Heathrow.

But christ, compared to the Conservative alternative this time I'd have voted for him three times given the opportunity.
 


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I understand the logic of why they aren't.

Labour know they're going to win the next election anyway if they stay on this course. They are trying to appeal to both the remain voting metropolitan liberals and the leave voting working classes simultaneously. Being too outspoken on policy risks alienating one or the other.

It's a sensible tactic though thoroughly uninspiring. Also it gives less options for the Tories and right wing media to weaponise against them.
As a rule of thumb, when the Tories Demand that Labour do X or Y, the best plan is always Z.
 








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