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Tony Blair. War criminal,yes or no ?

Is Tony Blair a War Criminal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 144 63.4%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.6%

  • Total voters
    227










I think my point is being missed or deliberately overlooked! Maybe I'm splitting hairs too sharply for the Blair haters. :shrug:

No. Not at all. It's very simple. If you commit a crime you are a criminal. When you are convicted you become a CONVICTED criminal. The conviction does not make you a criminal, the commision of the crime does.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
43,690
Crap Town
War criminals never get brought to trial let alone convicted if they're on the winning side.
 




wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patron
Aug 10, 2007
13,624
Melbourne
Whereas the sociopathic right wingers feel that illegal wars leading to the destruction of millions of lives are somehow acceptable as long as it serves Blighty and her ruling classes...

If Mars and Earth were engaged in nuclear war you are one of those twits who would back Mars.
 


fat old seagull

New member
Sep 8, 2005
5,239
Rural Ringmer
Don't you have to convicted to be a 'criminal'. So, the answer must be, no, he isn't a war criminal.

Surely if you commit a crime....you are a criminal. If you don't get caught you are a lucky CRIMINAL.

And for my money he's one of the worst, a despicable shite, who had the audacity to call himself a Socialist. That was until he saw the darkness......and smelt the money.
 






BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,127
If Mars and Earth were engaged in nuclear war you are one of those twits who would back Mars.

I would be too, if Earth illegally invaded Mars for nefarious reasons.

Right and wrong shouldn't be dictated by location.
 


MarioOrlandi

New member
Jun 4, 2013
580
Idi Amin was a tryant, there is a difference, true only by the width of a fag paper. One was a leader who busily committed genocide, the other thought he was Napoleon, who deceived Parliament and took us to war on a lie.
 








ThePompousPaladin

New member
Apr 7, 2013
1,025
Knowingly doctoring the evidence for war (or knowingly accepting that evidence) and putting it before parliament.
In my eyes that makes him culpable for the atrocities that have occurred and still continue as a result.

I vote yes - criminal.

He presumably has some blame in Kelly's death too, whether it was suicide or murder...

The buck stops with him.
 








MarioOrlandi

New member
Jun 4, 2013
580
I take it that everyone voting yes also considers Churchill a war criminal as well.

Drew, get real. Churchill did not order the extermination of millions of people. He was a war time leader and the tower of strength we needed at that time.
Now not knowing your age I suggest you make that remark to either of your Grand Parents or Great Grand Parents if they are still alive and do not be surprised if you receive an instant rebuke.
 


OzMike

Well-known member
Oct 2, 2006
12,942
Perth Australia
Tony Blair, the main reason I left.
Self centered, egotistical prat who just wants his name in history books.
How is it that fools like this always seem to get the top job.
Same going on here now, I may come back!
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland
It was certainly criminal for a Labour Prime Minister blindly to follow a NeoCon US President like Dubya into a wholly unjustified invasion.

This raises the interesting question to what extent was Tony Blair a Labour Prime Minister.
The fact that he was the leader of what passes these days for the Labour Party, sure, I'll concede you that.
But what other indicia of a Labour PM did he display?

Ramsay MacDonald, Clement Attlee, Harold Wilson, James Callaghan, Tony Blair
There used to be a song on Sesame Street: "One of these things is not like the other. One of these things doesn't belong...
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland


Paddy B

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,084
Horsham
Not in the same way as Milosovic and that Bavarian chap but surely if you take your country to war against international law then by definition surely you are a war criminal
 


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