Tommy Robinson

[Zeberdi]

Come on

The problem is google is a minefield.

It is and that is a big problem. Especially when people start getting information from social media. And especially for people not use to filtering through all the noise online - it takes practice.

I’ll give you a really helpful tip - before reading anything/or taking it for ‘truth, check the bias of your sources.

It is hard to find genuinely unbiased sources but it should be clear after a little research what political bias if any a website or particular writer has. Wiki is helpful for that if you do a search on the person or publication for their background and controversies.

 

[BadFish]

It is and that is a big problem. Especially when people start getting information from social media. And especially for people not use to filtering through all the noise online - it takes practice.

I’ll give you a really helpful tip - before reading anything/or taking it for ‘truth, check the bias of your sources.

It is hard to find genuinely unbiased sources but it should be clear after a little research what political bias if any a website or particular writer has. Wiki is helpful for that if you do a search on the person or publication for their background and controversies.

I would add to follow the links/citations/references to the primary source so you can find the facts that the publication/journalist has used to form their opinion/conclusion.

If there aren't any move on.

 

[clapham_gull]

I'm not sure if his absence will make his pack of Bully XLs any nicer to confront in central London tomorrow, so I'm hoping we seriously outnumber them on the counter demo. It feels like the night before Millwall away.

Yes, but it won't do much to alleviate his support. It will probably harden it.

What will bring him down is the usual "follow the money approach" because that's really what it's about.

I'm not sure he's your "normal" far right threat, with his support for Israel and all that.

On that he splits the far right...

... and let's not even start on the left.

I'm not sure the left have recalibrated to deal with obvious grifters in the modern age.

Until it takes a different approach, it will easily be perceived as those pretending to be working class against those who genuinely are. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant.

The inconvenient truth is you require forensic accountants rather than class warriors.

Fair play for turning up though.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Come on

The problem is google is a minefield.

So why are you asking here? NSC is like a pub at closing time.

 

[Guinness Boy]

That’s fine, hopefully GB will follow suit.

You posed a question that anyone could find the answer to in a manner designed to mislead people. You deflected away from follow up questions and are now playing the victim. Classic far right tactics.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

It is and that is a big problem. Especially when people start getting information from social media. And especially for people not use to filtering through all the noise online - it takes practice.

I’ll give you a really helpful tip - before reading anything/or taking it for ‘truth, check the bias of your sources.

It is hard to find genuinely unbiased sources but it should be clear after a little research what political bias if any a website or particular writer has. Wiki is helpful for that if you do a search on the person or publication for their background and controversies.

On biased sources, I usually use an iPad but still have an old Laptop which I sometimes use for various things. It’s start of day thing is Microsoft Start, and it carries when opening up lots of GB News clips, Daily Express and Telegraph articles saying Farage is coming for Labour, Starmer is in trouble etc. I can’t be bothered to change it - have tried once or twice, but just skip past and ignore it. But I’m disappointed in Microsoft.

 

[Vin]

You posed a question that anyone could find the answer to in a manner designed to mislead people. You deflected away from follow up questions and are now playing the victim. Classic far right tactics.

And you are a mod ffs. Asked a simple question on a thread, got abused by you because you jumped to conclusions. Then asking me about Muslims in an attempt to draw me in. One would say classic far left tactics. I have sent a message to Bozza.

 

[Vin]

You posed a question that anyone could find the answer to in a manner designed to mislead people. You deflected away from follow up questions and are now playing the victim. Classic far right tactics.

So why are you asking here? NSC is like a pub at closing time.

I was on NSC and opened the TR thread. Saw that he was arrested, asked a question why then got abused by a mod. Why is it so bad in asking a question. Yes could have googled it, but asked a question instead on NSC.

 

[Peacehaven Wild Kids]

I have sent a message to Bozza.

 

[ROSM]

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It was then that WE contacted the electricity board who said.......

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I’m not sure why you have asked me a question about Muslims. That’s a bit weird.

Scrolling through the conversation from when you joined it, it does seem that you were seeking to suggest that Little Stevie was being victimized on a trumped up charge of terrorism for not handing over a phone, without actually saying so (just letting it hang there).

And after people explained the situation, you kept asking doe-eyed questions, and then got mock-shirty when someone asked you if you'd expect someone with whom you wouldn't sympathize, such as an Islamic terrorist suspect, to be charged under the terrorism act refused to give his phone code.

You can't have such an apparent burning curiosity, driving you to make repeated quizzical posts on a political thread on a football forum, and yet be apparently so completely ignorant of due process as it has affected Little Stevie repeatedly over many years. It is as if you know everything about him and het have never heard of him at the same time.

So I am inclined to agree with @Guinness Boy that you are on some sort of right wing wind-up.

From insouciance to outrage and screaming for a policeman (site owner) in the space of a few posts. Classic

 

[Guinness Boy]

Scrolling through the conversation from when you joined it, it does seem that you were seeking to suggest that Little Stevie was being victimized on a trumped up charge of terrorism for not handing over a phone, without actually saying so (just letting it hang there).

And after people explained the situation, you kept asking doe-eyed questions, and then got mock-shirty when someone asked you if you'd expect someone with whom you wouldn't sympathize, such as an Islamic terrorist suspect, to be charged under the terrorism act refused to give his phone code.

You can't have such an apparent burning curiosity, driving you to make repeated quizzical posts on a political thread on a football forum, and yet be apparently so completely ignorant of due process as it has affected Little Stevie repeatedly over many years. It is as if you know everything about him and het have never heard of him at the same time.

So I am inclined to agree with @Guinness Boy that you are on some sort of right wing wind-up.

From insouciance to outrage and screaming for a policeman (site owner) in the space of a few posts. Classic

And you’ll never GUESS what the far right meme du jour is on Twitter?

 

[jcdenton08]

Why are the right wing nutters so obsessed with paedophilia?

 

[Zeberdi]

On biased sources, I usually use an iPad but still have an old Laptop which I sometimes use for various things. It’s start of day thing is Microsoft Start, and it carries when opening up lots of GB News clips, Daily Express and Telegraph articles saying Farage is coming for Labour, Starmer is in trouble etc. I can’t be bothered to change it - have tried once or twice, but just skip past and ignore it. But I’m disappointed in Microsoft.

Algorithms fuelled by popular internet traffic and echo chambers on social media have a lot to answer for when it comes to finding primary and unbiased sources on google!

It takes a bit of data mining but it’s not difficult.

One of the key things they teach you at university level ( and hopefully Harry will attest to this) is not what the ‘answers’ are but how to find them. We seem to have lost that level of discernment and investigation in popular political discourse.

We prefer instead it seems, too ready to attack the man rather than the views he holds - which polarises the conversation and dichotomies what are far more complex issues than are being discussed - no wonder people are confused or easily influenced by those that shout the loudest.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Why are the right wing nutters so obsessed with paedophilia?

Might be a case of protesting too much. After all, convicted rioter Warren Gilchrist had previous for offences against children under 13.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Why are the right wing nutters so obsessed with paedophilia?

Weren’t Hitler’s Brownshirts awash with ‘nonces’, long before the word or the internet was even invented, didn’t the Night of The Long Knives include a huge cull of the more undesirable sections(!) of Adolf’s core support?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Might be a case of protesting too much. After all, convicted rioter Warren Gilchrist had previous for offences against children under 13.

Yes.

And who can forget the absolute piece of scum, Jack Renshaw?

The neo-Nazi paedophile who plotted to kill - BBC News

How the story of Jack Renshaw's trials illustrates the dangers of radicalisation.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Weren’t Hitler’s Brownshirts awash with ‘nonces’, long before the word or the internet was even invented, didn’t the Night of The Long Knives include a huge cull of the more undesirable sections(!) of Adolf’s core support?

The EDL certainly were, which was why it was abandoned. Several of Yaxley-Lennon’s mates were convicted.

 

[carlzeiss]

Weren’t Hitler’s Brownshirts awash with ‘nonces’, long before the word or the internet was even invented, didn’t the Night of The Long Knives include a huge cull of the more undesirable sections(!) of Adolf’s core support?

Although it is general accepted that Ernst Rohm ( the one time leader of the Sturmabteilung ) was Gay . Referring to persons who identify the same as "nonce's" might these days be considered somewhat controversial .

 

[Zeberdi]

And you are a mod ffs. Asked a simple question on a thread, got abused by you because you jumped to conclusions. Then asking me about Muslims in an attempt to draw me in. One would say classic far left tactics. I have sent a message to Bozza.

I wouldn’t say GB’s response to you constituted ‘abuse’ by even the stretchiest stretch of the imagination.

I didn’t understand the connection initially tbh - it seemed like a clumsy reference to me but he was simply challenging the assumption ( held unfortunately not just by the far right but by a large majority of the hard right of centre in this Country) - that conflates Islam with ‘terrorism’.

I would suggest you read Section 7 and how it is used - it is a primary tool the Police use to give them to power to discover evidence - the subject does not even have to be under suspicion of being engaged in terrorism just that he may be in possession of information that could secure the conviction of terrorists.

You then need to ask why anyone would not want to assist the police in such an inquiry? And anti-terrorism legislation certainly does not just apply to those suspected of Islamic fundamentalism.

‘Extreme Right-Wing Terrorism (ERWT) describes those involved in Extreme Right-Wing activity who use violence in furtherance of their ideology. These ideologies can be broadly characterised as Cultural Nationalism, White Nationalism and White Supremacism.’

Primary sources for you:

The Threat from Extreme Right-Wing Terrorism | ProtectUK

Extreme Right-Wing Terrorism (ERWT) describes those involved in Extreme Right-Wing activity who use violence in furtherance of their ideology. These ideologies can be broadly characterised as Cultural Nationalism, White Nationalism and White Supremacism.

www.protectuk.police.uk

Schedule 7

Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 200 provides designated ports officers with unique powers to investigate people who pass through the United Kingdom’s borders. Schedule 7 is one of the vital tools police use to help keep the public safe.

www.counterterrorism.police.uk

Anyway - I can see my posts have little gravitas in a media format that thrives on the excitement of bunfights and binfests so I’ll bail out while I can