This government is in tatters, u-turn after u-turn. Are they leading the country any more?

[Herr Tubthumper]

Gove statement on GCSE U-turn: Politics live blog | Politics | guardian.co.uk

I am totally glad about this u-turn but you have to question a government which have made so many important policy f*** ups and reverses. Clueless.What a total and utter waste of EVERYONE'S time this particular issue has been.

I suppose this issue distracted the Tories from destroying what is left of the economy even further.

And to head off the 'they listened to the people' comments you listen to the people before you make an decision not the other way round.

 

[Common as Mook]

Too many wankers jumping on the anti-Tory bandwagon without even considering that something may in fact be a good idea.

I wish they'd stuck to it - piss poor that there is another U-Turn.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I don't believe the Government itself is clueless but Gove is and is clearly out of his depth ( and has been for quite some time ).

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I don't believe the Government itself is clueless but Gove is and is clearly out of his depth ( and has been for quite some time ).

So who appointed Gove?

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Too many wankers jumping on the anti-Tory bandwagon without even considering that something may in fact be a good idea.

I wish they'd stuck to it - piss poor that there is another U-Turn.

You cannot spin this into anything other than piss poor governing.

 

[Common as Mook]

So who appointed Gove?

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You cannot spin this into anything other than piss poor governing.

I haven't spun anything - I agree; piss poor governing. If they are going to suggest revolutionary changes to the educational system, at least have the balls to carry them through and not let leftie spin whipping the country up into a frenzy, change anything.

 

[CHAPPERS]

f***ing IDIOTS. This is clearly a good thing but it makes them look completely f***ing stupid AGAIN.

 

[brightn'ove]

It's a good decision, but a decision they should not have had to make. It merely highlights how inept they are in government.

 

[The Large One]

I don't believe the Government itself is clueless but Gove is and is clearly out of his depth ( and has been for quite some time ).

He's a bit like having King Herod become Chief Executive of Mothercare.

 

[supaseagull]

I checked out Gove's credentials earlier today when I heard about yet another U turn and what staggers me is that he has absolutely no experience of working within schools or universities and yet, whilst I realise it should be a pre-requisite that the Education Secretary should have been a teacher, I would have thought that it would have been better to install an Education Sec who has actually worked within the Education system...If there aren't any tories, then surely there must be a couple of Llib Dems who've worked in Education.

It's a bit like when Maggie appointed 40 a day chain smoker Nicholes Ridley to because the Health Minister in the 1980s!

 

[The Large One]

 

[User removed 4]

He's a bit like having King Herod become Chief Executive of Mothercare.

Go on, see if you can mention your old woman owns a school or something, you know you want to, you can work it into the thread somehow if you try.

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Nearly there !!

 

[The Large One]

Go on, see if you can mention your old woman owns a school or something, you know you want to, you can work it into the thread somehow if you try.

No need, you've already done it WITH APLOMB.

Cheers.

And less of the 'old', ta.

 

[mune ni kamome]

Good Lord. Has everyone forgotten the last 10 years under Blair/Brown already

 

[CheeseRolls]

Cameron was complaining recently about the relationship between the government and the civil service. This is nothing new every government thinks that the civil servants work against them and let's face it no one loves civil servants. They are however there to implement what is possible and this is not always the same as what is perceived to be practical.

Some of the arguments Gove has pushed, have struck me as frankly barmy. Even if you think bringing back Latin and Greek is a good idea, who exactly is going to teach these subjects ? Some things are worth pursuing and there is an element of truth that schools will look to pick the exam bodies that are perceived to provide the easiest exams, after all it has been made clear to them that they will be judged first and foremost on results. Gove's idea for a single exam board per subject has fallen foul of European competition rules, but even if it hadn't it isn't clear how this would offer value for money, or indeed raise standards. The answer surely is to put in more rigorous governance for the existing examination boards.

On social housing I applaud any attempts to try and improve things. I am sure we can all easily come up with plenty of way this could be better. The hard part is managing the transition and the very real impact this can have on people. Some of the examples of spare rooms (children in the forces, divorced dads etc) are deserving of more detailed consideration. If this means the politicians can't push ahead at the speed and the direction they want to, then so be it.

 

[ROSM]

Bottom line is that Gove is great at briefing the press - his wife works for and is a good friend of Ruper Murdoch - but he's not so ood at briefing his coalition partners and the agencies he relies on to implement his plan. He owes OFQUAL one after the English gsce cock up last year so the moment they came out against his plans, he was stuffed.

I don't have an issue with improving exam standards, reducing impact of coursework and so on, but that can be done within the current framework with a renaming exercise to clearly distinguish between pre 2015 and post results. But his lack of understanding of the need for arts and creative subjects, his unwillingness to publish marking schemes and expected benchmarks pre exams, and his fixation with Greek and Latin as languages rather than Spanish, Chinese etc which have more relevance for next 30 years is where he falls down.


Oh and his mouth looks like a cats anus.

 

[User removed 4]

Good Lord. Has everyone forgotten the last 10 years under Blair/Brown already

It seems so, they dont realise what they're in for if they elect a labour government with fuckall money to spunk or the power to borrow any.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

It seems so, they dont realise what they're in for if they elect a labour government with fuckall money to spunk or the power to borrow any.

Ah yes, but they will say it was all Maggies fault

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Good Lord. Has everyone forgotten the last 10 years under Blair/Brown already

Whatever you might think of Blair at least he was a leader.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Whatever you might think of Blair at least he was a leader.

Yes, he led us into Iraq, didn't he.

 

[Buzzer]

I don't recall you being so vociferous about this when Ed Balls, Alan Johnson, Ruth Kelly or David Blunkett held the equivalent post. And how do you feel about Stephen Twigg, Gove's opposite number in the Labour Party? Are you as cross that Labour have chosen someone with absolutely no experience of anything other than party activism?