[News] The year 2020 was the third warmest, fifth wettest and eight sunniest on record.

[Baldseagull]

The term 'since records began' is doing a lot of heavy lifting considering the earth is 4.5 billion years old ... [emoji6]

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And for most of that there were no Humans, and was not a planet we could have survived on.

 

[GREASED WEASEL]

The report says the UK has become hotter, sunnier and rainier:

2020 was the third warmest UK year since 1884; all the years in the top 10 are since 2002

- Last year was one of the least snowy on record; any snow mainly affected upland and northern areas
- Spring 2020 was the UK’s sunniest on record, and sunnier than most UK summers.
- 2020 was the UK’s fifth wettest year; six of the 10 wettest years have been since 1998

No other year is in the top 10 on all three criteria.


Liz Bentley, head of the Royal Meteorological Society, said that even if governments could achieve the challenging outcome of limiting global temperature rise to 1.5C – which looks very unlikely - that would still lead to a 10% increase in the amount of water the air can hold.

“In the UK,” she said, “we are likely to see temperatures of 40C***. As we get 1.5C warming, that’ll be something we see on a regular basis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57988023


Nothing new - and certainly not something anyone can write anything new about.
But it's still 'nice' to see it written down.




***On those days some of you might even turn your heating down a notch or two.

I think my signature says it all

 

[sydney]

I'm a bit of a weather nerd. So I'm pretty sure you are referring to 1983 (June and July very hot and dry) or 1984 (June very warm for a couple of weeks). 1981 and 1982 were nowt to write home about. 1980 you would have been wearing a mac all summer

83 is about right id say... possibly 82...??

 

[sydney]

I don’t disagree with you. Our problem is that this period of climate change is occurring while 8 billion of us are on the planet’s surface.

you don't think the 2 are connected at all.

 

[sydney]

Hottest temperature in England / the UK was 38.7 on 25/7/2019

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-climate-extremes

I was doing a bridge inspection that day, happily it was in a field next to a railway, rather than actually being part of the railway itself, so I didn't have to wear all the hi-vis or walk over track ballast.

The van I was in didn't have air conditioning, the trip back in the afternoon was great fun

faaark , where was that ..? i'm talking London.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

faaark , where was that ..? i'm talking London.

I think the record temperature was in Cambridge or Cambridgeshire.

The bridge, if you're interested, was in Bedfordshire. Not Bradford, as one of the people who were meant to be there misheard, leading to him travelling there in advance to stay with his sister.

 

[Silverhatch]

you don't think the 2 are connected at all.

Yes. They are absolutely linked.

 

[Eeyore]

83 is about right id say... possibly 82...??

I think 1983. Just after the FA Cup FInal the sun came out and magically stayed there for two months. It became very hot at times. It wasn't until August until things broke (apart from a few thunder storms in late July). 1982 was pretty bog standard.

 

[giveusfalmerplease]

this increase in temperature is actually worse (in terms of the planet) . I read years ago that the planet cycles between a cooling phase and a warming phase every 70,000 years and it was roughly 70,000 years ago we had the last ice age so in fact humans are not only contributing to rising temperatures we have actually prevented another ice age!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Climate change has long passed the 'deniable' stage now. It's completely undeniable as we're living it.

We are now living in the part where it is fully observable in real life and statistics. Natural disasters are becoming more frequent and more extreme all around the world.

The UK has largely got away with it so far. We're used to 'weird' weather. It's only once we start to experience more frequent floods, droughts and wildfires like the rest of the world will we really start to become alarmed.

My prediction is that we'll continue to not do enough, and we'll try to learn to live with it, until it becomes unmanageable and it becomes a perpetual national emergency. The fate of numerous other more vulnerable countries will be considerably more bleak though.

I agree with the second part, particular if people continue to conflate climate and weather.

The data clearly show an inrease in global temperature that is steady since the late 1800s (climte change). For reasons I can't fathom, although the onset entirely coincides with the onset of industrialisation, the rate of temperature change (which has been quite linear over recent time) is not linearly related to the extent and nature of the likely causes. Smoke, lots of smoke, now much less smoke. No cars, no cars, no cars, some cars, insane numbers of cars.... Rainforst, Rainforest, less rainforest, steady and massive felling of rainforest. Logging of pine, massive logging of pine, replanting of pine. Poisoned rivers and beaches, clean rivers and blue flag beaches. Lots of things going up and down and it all results in a smooth linear global increase in temperature.....call me someone with a basic understanding of regression, but....

I'm not saying man isn't to blame and the narrative is wrong, and I appaud efforts to do things better, but I can't find the detail here, and I'd like to know how best I should use my precious time. Someone using a pint of hot water to clean an empty yoghurt container so it can be recycled does not strike me as the most green and economical way of using energy. Yet people do this and think they are saving the planet, and tell me off when I raise an eyebrow. And heaven forfend mentioning that it will probably all end up in landfill.....

Sorry to sound irritable but I don't like the 'it is getting worse and there is nothing we can do' mantra. Mr 'it would be a good thing if humans became extinct' will no doubt be along soon. It would be nice to know whether I should be scolded for not doing enough to save the planet or scolded for not doing enough to benefit mankind. They are not always necessarily the same thing.

 

[sydney]

I agree with the second part, particular if people continue to conflate climate and weather.

The data clearly show an inrease in global temperature that is steady since the late 1800s (climte change). For reasons I can't fathom, although the onset entirely coincides with the onset of industrialisation, the rate of temperature change (which has been quite linear over recent time) is not linearly related to the extent and nature of the likely causes. Smoke, lots of smoke, now much less smoke. No cars, no cars, no cars, some cars, insane numbers of cars.... Rainforst, Rainforest, less rainforest, steady and massive felling of rainforest. Logging of pine, massive logging of pine, replanting of pine. Poisoned rivers and beaches, clean rivers and blue flag beaches. Lots of things going up and down and it all results in a smooth linear global increase in temperature.....call me someone with a basic understanding of regression, but....

I'm not saying man isn't to blame and the narrative is wrong, and I appaud efforts to do things better, but I can't find the detail here, and I'd like to know how best I should use my precious time. Someone using a pint of hot water to clean an empty yoghurt container so it can be recycled does not strike me as the most green and economical way of using energy. Yet people do this and think they are saving the planet, and tell me off when I raise an eyebrow. And heaven forfend mentioning that it will probably all end up in landfill.....

Sorry to sound irritable but I don't like the 'it is getting worse and there is nothing we can do' mantra. Mr 'it would be a good thing if humans became extinct' will no doubt be along soon. It would be nice to know whether I should be scolded for not doing enough to save the planet or scolded for not doing enough to benefit mankind. They are not always necessarily the same thing.

we need to plant trees , fast growing , carbon swallowing weeds that grow faster , need less water rand make a fibre just as viable as cotton with a quarter of the water input.....ring any bells...

 

[Stat Brother]

The other day it snowed in Brazil for the first time in a bazillion years.

Which is nice.

 

[vegster]

The other day it snowed in Brazil for the first time in a bazillion years.

Which is nice.

Sounds like it's been quite wet in Downing Street too this summer...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58042146

 

[GT49er]

The year 2020 was the third warmest, fifth wettest and eight sunniest on record.

Yes, all that - and the most fvckin' miserable year ever to boot.

 

[The Clamp]

It wont get better by ignoring it. The world put in a massive effort to get COVID under control. We need at least that effort to get our climate back into working order. In about twenty years we are going to think the pandemic was a ****ing birthday present.

 

[The Clamp]

Climate change is part of our planet’s make up. We still have ice at our poles from the last ice age. Little doubt now that the 250 years since the industrial revolution together with population growth has contributed to warming. But it’s always important to remember that the Earth’s climate has warmed and cooled across geological time.

Not at this rate and magnitude. The ice caps are melting at a frightening pace.

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

I wonder if we will see an increase in volcanic activity as the planet heats up.
Krakatoa killed about 35,000 people when it went up but the ash and sulphur dioxide it through up into the upper atmosphere had a significant cooling effect on the planet.

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

I wonder if we will see an increase in volcanic activity as the planet heats up.

No. At least, not as a result of the atmosphere warming.

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

No. At least, not as a result of the atmosphere warming.

But could it though?
As the crust and the atmosphere heats up,would that make conditions better for a large volcanic eruption?

 

[Sid in the Sharknado]

But could it though?
As the crust and the atmosphere heats up,would that make conditions better for a large volcanic eruption?

No. The rise in temperature of the atmosphere is tiny compared to the energy involved in volcanic eruptions.