deletebeepbeepbeep
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He would not have too, in that case he wins by default.
[TV] The Traitors - BBC
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He would not have too, in that case he wins by default.
Jaz has certainly been suspicious of Harry (and previously, Paul) but he's also been suspicious of one or two faithfuls and got them wrong. I don't rule out the fact that he's merely being contrary in suspecting Harry and Paul purely because they are/were in a strong position and seeing everyone cooing over the pair of them. I'm not sure it's because he's got some insight that others have missed. Or if he has, he seems to forget about that insight within a day or two.
Harry's had some extraordinary strokes of luck - he took the shield and then convinced he was the victim of attempted murder. Then he won the sword giving himself the chance to look like a team player. What's the probability of BOTH happening? It's not a stretch to believe Harry can convince Jaz of exactly that when they get down to the final handful.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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I think Jaz has been biding his time, make it to the final before revealing fully his suspicions re. Harry so that he avoids putting himself in the firing line. We will find out tonight whether that was the right tactic or not.
That has certainly been the case for half the game, but he was "biding his time" with Paul, during which Paul took out several pretty competent faithful. I'm just not convinced he has the courage of his convictions and he's simply hiding behind this "waiting for the right moment" trope..
MattBackHome
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The fact that there is this amount of game theory discussion about what could happen tonight is testament to the genius of the format. I just love it (and all your contributions NSC 
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Guy Fawkes
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I doubt they will do it, judging from comments above (i haven't seen the 1st series yet so maybe they already do this) but at this stage as a player gets voted out, i think they shouldn't reveal to the others left if they were in fact a traitor or faithful.
That way those remaining will still be second guessing as to whether they have managed to correctly identify any of the traitors, or if any remain amongst them. This way the 2 remaining traitors will also have a chance to win it together.
The finalists already know that there has to be at least 1 traitor left in the group, so if they are made to reveal which they are to the group as they get banished, the remaining faithful would simply be forced to keep banishing players until they correctly identified at least one traitor, making it impossible for both traitors left to win it together. (simply because the remaining faithful would never agree to there being no traitors left, and continue to push for more voting until at least one traitor was revealed to them (if it follows the usual routine of a reveal to those remaining after each vote.))
That way those remaining will still be second guessing as to whether they have managed to correctly identify any of the traitors, or if any remain amongst them. This way the 2 remaining traitors will also have a chance to win it together.
The finalists already know that there has to be at least 1 traitor left in the group, so if they are made to reveal which they are to the group as they get banished, the remaining faithful would simply be forced to keep banishing players until they correctly identified at least one traitor, making it impossible for both traitors left to win it together. (simply because the remaining faithful would never agree to there being no traitors left, and continue to push for more voting until at least one traitor was revealed to them (if it follows the usual routine of a reveal to those remaining after each vote.))
Andrew cannot share the prize with Harry, because if they both make it to the final 3, it will be with Molly. If that happens, Molly will vote for Andrew, and so will Harry.
Andrew's only hope is to get Harry out sooner. If Andrew let's Jas get banished without persuading Jas to join in a vote against Harry, he's a bloody idiot.
Andrew's only hope is to get Harry out sooner. If Andrew let's Jas get banished without persuading Jas to join in a vote against Harry, he's a bloody idiot.
I'd still waste a load on herCharlie went out in an earlier episode
Beach Hut
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Molly is plain stupid, blown it big time
deletebeepbeepbeep
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Oh f*** off, what are you doing
Gazwag
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Love certainty is blind, been a silly little sheep the whole series
Jeez Mollie
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
She was too trusting. She did vote for Harry and then rubbed it out and changed it.
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Drew
How stupid is Mollie? Why would Jaz vote for a banishment if he was a traitor? As a traitor, he'd either take the lot or share the pot if he's in the final two. Jaz didn't argue the case well (unless the edit didn't show it). He should have gone for Harry and not Andrew. Does anyone know what would have happened if the vote was split two each when it was the last 4, ie two votes for Evie and two for Andrew?
Gazwag
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Early in the series they could vote again and if still a draw it was a toss of the coin
JackB247
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Brilliant ending, fair play to Harry.
How did Mollie not compute that Jaz would have voted to end the game in the previous round if he was a traitor!?
How did Mollie not compute that Jaz would have voted to end the game in the previous round if he was a traitor!?
Normal Rob
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Thick she may have been, but you have to be a heartless bastard not to feel sorry for her.