The sums dont add up Dick

[The Auditor]

Re: Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

IF you read my post you will see it challenges The Insider's statement about how the club would loose money EVEN if the ground was sold out week after week. Quite clearly, due to the shite football, this is not the case.

I think the Insider is correct.....a million loss on gates of say 6500 ( june 2005 accounts)...the extra revenue less costs to capacity wont be a million ...so club loses money regardless of whether Withdean is sold out

 

[Seagullible]

Re: Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

I'm sure they do show a loss.

you sir are a twat. start being a supporter and help the club

 

[Beach Hut]

Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

Rent boys

How very dare you

 

[Djmiles]

THIRTY-SIX players?

 

[algie]

Re: Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

How very dare you

Sorry, i was thinking of that clown with the beard on here

 

[The Large One]

Which figure is 'hilarious?'

The 8,850 average. It's a potential, but we're not getting it. So how can you say that's what the ticket revenue is?

The 36 players average £769 a week.

The £20,000 cost of staging a game. Insider said we don't break even at each ground. So 5,500 people paying your average of £15 is over £80,000.

The implication that we don't have any other expenditure - including the cost of (yes, yawn if you must) the Falmer inquiry.

 

[The Large One]

If everyone brought a programme for £3 and had burger and chips,that would raise the revenue

Not much.

Not every programme sells out, so the cost of designing and printing the programmes must be offset against the revenues raised.

Regards the burgers, that come in as a revenue stream under 'catering'. In other words, the burger van people pay the club (or it may even be the council) the same amount each game for their pitch, and what they sell goes to the caterers.

 

[beardy gull]

Now, 23 games with a 8850 capacity at £15 average ticket price is a turnover of £3,053,250.

Say we have a squad of 36 on average of £40,000 per year the players wage bill comes to £1,440,000. Add 20 other staff at £30,000 per year we get £600,000.

It costs £20k to stage a game at Withdean. 23 games comes in at £460,000.

This still leaves £553,000 left over per year and totally ignores any other revenue streams. Some, like transfer fees, are very significant sums.

Further more, I feel I have probably greatly over estimated the average player salary. Given the vast majority of our squad are young and inexperienced I would have grave concerns if the average was anywhere near 50k per player.

I appreciate the simplistic nature of my maths, but I really do struggle to see how the club claim that theu would still be losing money hand over fist even if the ground was sold out week after week.

Dick Knight, please explain where the money is going. This is not a criticism, it is a request for clarification.

I would put this on the 'Ask the club' board but fear it will be deleted.

There's some shit posted on here but I believe this tops the lot.
f***ing hell.

 

[The Auditor]

2005
£
Gate receipts 2,438,981
Football League central distributions 821,317
Commercial sponsorship I advertising 969,393
Shop sales high street / online 718,571
Programme sales 107,374
Broadcast royalties 168,165
Membership schemes 8,965
Website royalties 38,455
Fundraising 262,675

TOTAL TURNOVER 5533896

 

[Djmiles]

Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

There's some shit posted on here but I believe this tops the lot.
f***ing hell.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Some of these figures this guy is quoting....

 

[William Chops]

There's even more left over than I estimated.

 

[The Auditor]

Notes 2005
£
TURNOVER 2 5,533,896
Administrative expenses (6,695,396)
Other operating income 3 185,313
OPERATING LOSS 4 ( 976,187)
Profit on disposal of intangible assets 461,000
Exceptional items
- Falmer development 5 (517,494)
Interest receivable 6 552
Interest payable 7 (41,872)
LOSS ON ORDINARY
ACTiVITIES BEFORE TAXATION (1,074,001)
Tax on loss on ordinary activities 10 -
RETAINED LOSS FOR THE YEAR 20 £(1,074,001)

 

[William Chops]

Re: Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Some of these figures this guy is quoting....

I am not quoting any figures. And I am not suggesting the ground IS sold out each week. Are people thick on this site or something?

 

[Djmiles]

There's even more left over than I estimated.

How about getting your facts right before posting it then

 

[The Auditor]

There's even more left over than I estimated.

Do the maths ...you are way off...dont let the facts spoil your story

 

[William Chops]

Notes 2005
£
TURNOVER 2 5,533,896
Administrative expenses (6,695,396)
Other operating income 3 185,313
OPERATING LOSS 4 (976,187)
Profit on disposal of intangible assets 461,000
Exceptional items
- Falmer development 5 (517,494)
Interest receivable 6 552
Interest payable 7 (41,872)
LOSS ON ORDINARY
ACTiVITIES BEFORE TAXATION (1,074,001)
Tax on loss on ordinary activities 10 -
RETAINED LOSS FOR THE YEAR 20 £(1,074,001)

'Administative expenses' mmmmmmm. That's a bit vague.

 

[Djmiles]

Re: Re: Re: Re: The sums dont add up Dick

I am not quoting any figures. And I am not suggesting the ground IS sold out each week. Are people thick on this site or something?

Coming from the person saying we have 36 players, even a part time Brighton fan knows how thin our squad is.

 

[William Chops]

I'm just going by the list on the back of the programme. There is about 36 on there.

 

[Seagullible]

William Chops - you are a twat who is not helping or a very good fisherman

 

[rool]

'Administative expenses' mmmmmmm. That's a bit vague.

that'll cover the costa coffee account and stuff.

I can't remember what the threshold was for filing abbreviated accounts was before I left blighty, I think it was £4m then. I assume the club have to file full accounts and that the full breakdown of expenditure is available somewhere?.

Good work on the turnover figures Auditor. Looks like Season tickets account for over 70% of gate receipts.