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The Offside Rule, What Would Football be like Without it



studio150

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Jul 30, 2011
29,642
On the Border
If you want an insight into what would probably happen just cast your minds back to the Watney Cup where you could only be offside in the 18 yards from the goal line.
This usuallt resulted in1 attacker staying 20 yards from goal usually marked by 1 or 2 defenders which created more space in field.
An interesting experiment at the time.

I would suspect that if offside was abolished completely that 1 player would effectively mark the opposition keeper to hinder his sight lines effectively reducing to a 9v9 game.

What would we do without any discussion in whether a goal was offside or not.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,776
Location Location
I like that the offside rule requires teams to play with some WIT. The timing and weight of the pass has to be perfect, as does the run. There is a rarity value of seeing an offside trap well and truly sprung, with a player rushing through 1 on 1. It's one of the great skills and joys of the game, because its not easy to achieve, a classic example being that Lincoln goal the other night.

Remove the offside law and you destroy the game as a spectacle.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
I like that the offside rule requires teams to play with some WIT. The timing and weight of the pass has to be perfect, as does the run. There is a rarity value of seeing an offside trap well and truly sprung, with a player rushing through 1 on 1. It's one of the great skills and joys of the game, because its not easy to achieve, a classic example being that Lincoln goal the other night.

Remove the offside law and you destroy the game as a spectacle.

100% right
 


Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,421
In a pile of football shirts
To improve the game at professional level.

Use a bit of the money the PL trouser to install goal line technology at all professional football clubs.

Instigate four linesmen for every game, two on each side, to improve visibility of everything from offside, to fouls and cheating. Fund this using some of the money the premier league trousers.

Introduce retrospective 12 month bans for cheats, no ifs, no buts. If you take performance enhancing drugs it's classed as cheating, you get banned for at least a year. If you get caught diving, trying to get players sent off, or any other type of cheating the ban should carry the same gravity.

Game improved, offside stays, the spectacle remains largely unaffected apart from where it counts and all without resorting to Van Bastens Mickey Mouse ideas.
 


Drebin

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Jul 25, 2011
839
Norway
Marco Van Basten can do one. Scored a flukey goal against the USSR in 1988 and he thinks he's the second coming. What next? The ref joining in with the game. Fifa have already ruined future World Cup with their meddling. Bunch of overpaid, know nothing f*ckwits.

Next? I can think of at least one referee that's piloting this idea already.
 






jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,763
Woking
Marco Van Basten can do one. Scored a flukey goal against the USSR in 1988 and he thinks he's the second coming. What next? The ref joining in with the game. Fifa have already ruined future World Cup with their meddling. Bunch of overpaid, know nothing f*ckwits.

Love it. A slab of NSC gold. I love a good dose of rantage.
 






sussex_guy2k2

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Jun 6, 2014
3,752
He should read The Inverted Pyramid by Jonathan Wilson if he wants to know.

His logic is to evolve football by taking it back to the 1800s. #footballerlogic
 


The Optimist

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Apr 6, 2008
2,615
Lewisham
Introduce retrospective 12 month bans for cheats, no ifs, no buts. If you take performance enhancing drugs it's classed as cheating, you get banned for at least a year. If you get caught diving, trying to get players sent off, or any other type of cheating the ban should carry the same gravity.

Where do you draw the line on cheating? What about shirt pulling, you can't claim it's an attempt at a legal tackle.
 


jakarta

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May 25, 2007
15,633
Sullington
Have to say I like the idea of sin binning, makes a cynical foul or dive a real issue for the team if it loses their player/s for a good chunk of the game - they have to go in the book as well of course... If you watch Rugby Union it is clear that binning usually means the opposing side scores, surely going to reduce simulation at least?
 






Worried Man Blues

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Feb 28, 2009
6,634
Swansea
I'd like to see the press reports etc of what they said when the offside rule was introduced and why. I presume we would go back to all the problems we had then?
 


Braggfan

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded
May 12, 2014
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I suppose there's an argument that tinkering with rules can iron out controversies or make the game better, but changing what has become a fundamental part of the game seems so strange now. Attendances are high, so is investment, so why exactly do they think game is being negatively affected by the offside rule?
How about they just stick with a set of rules for offside for more than a season or two without changing minor details to them, surely that would be a better experiment than scrapping it.
 




Taybha

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Oct 8, 2008
27,198
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Players would soon get bored of scoring and find other things to do to amuse the crowd .

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SAC

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May 21, 2014
2,550
To improve the game at professional level.

Use a bit of the money the PL trouser to install goal line technology at all professional football clubs.

Instigate four linesmen for every game, two on each side, to improve visibility of everything from offside, to fouls and cheating. Fund this using some of the money the premier league trousers.

Introduce retrospective 12 month bans for cheats, no ifs, no buts. If you take performance enhancing drugs it's classed as cheating, you get banned for at least a year. If you get caught diving, trying to get players sent off, or any other type of cheating the ban should carry the same gravity.

Game improved, offside stays, the spectacle remains largely unaffected apart from where it counts and all without resorting to Van Bastens Mickey Mouse ideas.

How many fouls are there in a game and of these how many are deliberate? Are you going to band each of these players for 12 months? Putting your hand up for the throw in when you know it came off your boot?
 


Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,421
In a pile of football shirts
Where do you draw the line on cheating? What about shirt pulling, you can't claim it's an attempt at a legal tackle.

Wouldnt take long for players to get the message though would it? Likewise managers would have to up their game rather than teaching their players how to cheat, and agents would also suffer as no club is going to pay a player £250k a week when they've been banned, and the agent ain't going to get he fee or his cut either.
 


Superphil

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Jul 7, 2003
25,421
In a pile of football shirts
How many fouls are there in a game and of these how many are deliberate? Are you going to band each of these players for 12 months? Putting your hand up for the throw in when you know it came off your boot?

If you deal with the diving, the blatant cheating wrapped up as simulation, then the refs have a better chance of spotting, and dealing with the fouls, the shirt pulling, the obstructions etc, if players know they face a retrospective ban based on to evidence for a dive, they will stop doing it, if not immediately, not long after the first player gets the ban.
 




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