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Does anyone think that the club knew about the pending arrests before the Wrexham game, and this was the reason we were so poor and unfocused?
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The Argus report is factually correct. Tommy Elphick was arrested.
Seriously - I've disobeyed orders there in not issuing you a life ban. Tread carefully. No room for idle conjecture regarding the alledged incident or the complainant.
Does anyone think that the club knew about the pending arrests before the Wrexham game, and this was the reason we were so poor and unfocused?
But are we allowed to query the accuracy of the Statement identifying the Accused, seeing as how quickly Tommy was cleared![]()
But are we allowed to query the accuracy of the Statement identifying the Accused, seeing as how quickly Tommy was cleared![]()
But the Argus stated he was not just arrested but "accused" which is a different story. You can be arrested under suspicion of a crime without a charge ever being brought, which may be what has happened here (maybe not), but to say someone is accused of a crime means they have been charged.
So I would say this headline is very possibly inaccurate.
I'm sure the the Argus will run an article saying he has been eliminated from the inquiry. They don't need to apologise IMHO. He was arrested, which is what they reported.
If you saw the post you would understand why it crossed the line.
No. Because you know nothing of that statement, so it would be nothing but idle speculation.
But the Argus stated he was not just arrested but "accused" which is a different story. You can be arrested under suspicion of a crime without a charge ever being brought, which may be what has happened here (maybe not), but to say someone is accused of a crime means they have been charged.
So I would say this headline is very possibly inaccurate.
We always have been with non league clubs. Look at games again FC United and Woking.
They were not aware in the slightest, Gus would not stand for it at all!
wouldn't it be funny if there was video evidence proving the players innocence?
The Argus report is factually correct. Tommy Elphick was arrested. As I posted on another thread yesterday, people can be arrested for all sorts of reasons. Being arrested does not automatically imply that you are even under suspicion for committing a crime. You can be arrested "to help the police with their enquiries". And that sometimes means EXACTLY what it says.Sometimes, there is an ADVANTAGE in being arrested. It means that you are entitled to the support of a solicitor, while the police interview you. This can be very helpful.
The problem is that the average reader of the Argus doesn't understand this. I suspect that the average journalist on the Argus doesn't understand it either. People assume that an arrest MUST mean that you are being accused of committing a crime. And then the speculation runs wild.
Even the "innocent until proved guilty" argument falls into this trap. As things stand, there is no verifiable assertion from anyone that Tommy Elphick has even been suspected of committing a crime. ALL that we know is that he was arrested, that he was co-operative, that he is no longer of interest in this enquiry, and no further action will be taken against him.
Not if the police feel that an interview under caution, in the presence of a solicitor, might yield better information. And it sometimes does - particularly if the alternative is an interview with a nervous young man who needs support and isn't getting it.