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chickens

Have you considered masterly inactivity?
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Oct 12, 2022
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I have to say that since SKS’s decision to market himself as Farage’s mini-me, I’m looking at them in greater detail than I was previously.

We’ll probably end up with a Reform/Lib Dem coalition where we’ll be racist, but also terribly nice about it.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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From memory, they’d made it one of their key pledges, and it was something that got a lot of voters voting for them, wanting others to have the same opportunities that they’d enjoyed.

Education used to be considered a key feature of a civilized nation, rather than a money-making racket for spivs, sorry, experienced executives with a wide range of experience in other industries.

For the Lib Dems to then willingly enter an electoral pact that saw them abandon their stance on tuition fees destroyed them for a generation. It was considered a cast iron betrayal by their core vote.
Agree with this although will quibble about a generation -- a decade is more accurate. We're fifteen years on and the Lib Dems have got more MPs now than they have for a century (in all their guises).
 


chickens

Have you considered masterly inactivity?
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Agree with this although will quibble about a generation -- a decade is more accurate. We're fifteen years on and the Lib Dems have got more MPs now than they have for a century (in all their guises).

I accept the amendment. I’ve been told a billion times about hyperbole.
 


Anger

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Jul 21, 2017
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I got a post blocked on FB due to 'hate speech' for saying that men are useless for not being psychic!!! Just because a woman said she didn't want anything from the shop, doesn't mean that a man can come back from the shop with chocolate for just himself! I didn't get arrested and thrown in jail though (sorry).

If you had said you were English though, you would have been. These days…
 


hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
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jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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I had to hold my nose to vote Lib Dem last year, as Lewes was a two horse race between them and the Tories. So I’m a reluctant Lib Dem, I suppose.

They lied about tuition fees. There’s no dressing it up or dodging the fact. Their u-turn was the biggest single financial decision in my life under any government so far. Nothing anyone has done before or since has directly cost me more money, including Brexit.

Yes, they were under the thumb of the Tories. No, this is not an excuse. They had ONE key election promise, which single handedly earned them the young vote.

They got a whiff of power, and betrayed us.

People will say they did a good job keeping the Tories in check on other issues (debatable - many Tories after the fact have said they were surprised how soft the Libs were). But they got into power solely off the back of their one key election promise - tuition fees. Then immediately betrayed the electorate for a seat at the table.

A whole generation will never forget this - they screwed their election prospects for a generation in return for a few years of being David Cameron’s whipping boys.
 


Doonhamer7

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Jun 17, 2016
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Did anyone remember labour left us in a huge financial hole - Tories/LDs had no option in keeping student fees. Pretty petty to hold one item against them, imagine if the Tories hadn’t been held to account by LDs what state we’d have been under Cameron / Osbourne
 


jcdenton08

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Did anyone remember labour left us in a huge financial hole - Tories/LDs had no option in keeping student fees. Pretty petty to hold one item against them, imagine if the Tories hadn’t been held to account by LDs what state we’d have been under Cameron / Osbourne
It was the sole reason people voted for them. Without that lie they never would’ve been in government in the first place.

Also: People will say they did a good job keeping the Tories in check on other issues (debatable - many Tories after the fact have said they were surprised how soft the Libs were)
 
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