The Internet & Brighton & Hove Albion fans

[Beach Hut]

Have you ever heard of a paragraph ?

 

[Art Vs Science]

Good god no. Is it as a good a read as the telegraph?

 

[Beach Hut]

No idea as I am a Times man...............

 

[Art Vs Science]

That explains your Grammar stance! I felt like a little kid being told off by Mr. Finsbury from class 11. I really should try harder of course but it is the internet so i don't generally bother. Oh, and you did not put a question mark at the end of your question.

 

[Beach Hut]

That explains your Grammar stance! I felt like a little kid being told off by Mr. Finsbury from class 11. I really should try harder of course but it is the internet so i don't generally bother. Oh, and you did not put a question mark at the end of your question.

Now who's the teacher ?

 

[Art Vs Science]

Now who's the teacher ?

 

[Beach Hut]

Oh er, looks kind of nice

 

[Brovion]

Bollocks! Ha. Yes some fair points indeed, but i didn't write this as a scathing attack on anything. It was just more of a example of how people strap their views onto forums online and the piece where i had wrote "the interweb has empowered our opinions to a far higher status than it deserves " i think sums it up. As our speed of receiving information globally has sped up, so has our impatience and the culture of 'i want it, and i want it now' is embedded in the psyche of the younger generation.

I didn't read it as a scathing attack on anything. I obviously agree with you that people 'strap their views onto forums online', but I'm not sure I 100% agree with your assertion that "the interweb has empowered our opinions to a far higher status than it [sic] deserves". Certainly these opinions are heard and read by more people (worldwide), but there is SO much online content that most of it is just babbling froth and easily dismissed as the outpourings of 'numpties' (copyright Mick McCarthy). In other words I'm not sure the prolific posters on here have any more influence than the man in the old North Stand who used to bellow "You're SHIT Maybank!" everytime Teddy Maybank came within earshot.

 

[Art Vs Science]

Influence indeed is a strong word i guess, But "You're shit Maybank" will get alot more ignored than someone making a thread about it online. Of course it has no actual influence at club level but does sometimes induce a wider debate through a larger media source, for example, The Argus has sometimes referred to this site through a few of their stories so it does holds it's own a lot more.

The Internet IS very influential but in this case it is more about in house matters and the influence it can have.

 

[Superphil]

I was thinking about all of these years we have protested,campaigned and fought within a few inches of the clubs life to get to Falmer and we are ironically becoming part of the problem. Will we have Gus going into Falmer? I would say probably not. Will Falmer have the atmosphere we so desire, probably not(the goldstone memories are long gone i am afraid). The age of corporate funding & fair weather moaners will dominate our new era in my opinion and anyone who thinks Falmer will automatically be the fortress we want is deluded. I have seen (at Withdean) and heard enough on here to know that we have become a set of fans not much worse to the ones we were slagging off (Chelsea fans) on here a few weeks back. The internet has also become part of this problem along with a change in social attitudes. All the years of going to the pub in old shoreham road(or any pub for that matter) for 4/5/6 pints before the game and then singing your half pissed heart out in the north stand are no more. Will Falmer be briliiant? Yes, of course it will, will it win or winback alot of fans, yes it will. Will it hark us back to a rocking Goldstone Ground, I doubt it. Will the expectations and patience of fans of a by gone era be in place? I am sure you know the answer to that. The internet serves as a useful tool in the modern world but it also serves as a menace, the interweb has empowered our opinions to a far higher status than it deserves to be honest and it means not only can you hear the odd moan and self righteous opinions like in The Goldstone yrs but now you can you voice your opinion and reply for all to see without the danger of someone smacking you on the nose if you disagreed(or certainly disagreed in the way people do on here) or voice something controversial. Brighton & hove Albion is a different animal to that of the one in 1997, and so are the fans(not just us, i mean nationally) and i certainly cannot remember us booing our team when we were top of the table in my years of going. We have a chance of starting our new era on a clean slate, and slate we will. The point of 'I pay my money so i am entitled to my opinion' is as strong or as weak as 'If you don't vote, you don't have a voice', so it is here the the story begins and ends. So..........the underbelly to all of this? The biggest thing that has changed in football since we left The Goldstone? Us? We may well of moaned our way out of a good manager. I was guilty of this yesterday by posting something i should not of done in reaction to a 1-1 draw and very rarely do i moan. So it be that our tool has become our weapon and our weapon is a dangerous place.

Excellent points and I have to say that I agree with some of your sentiments. But do bear in mind, the user base of this website is tiny compared with the fanbase of the Albion, and the numbers that will be going to Falmer. There are many lapsed NSCers who are avid, vocal and passionate, who have become totally disillusioned with the way this site has developed over the past 5 years or so, and for each of them , there will be many more who haven’t, or simply don’t want to have anything to do with this site, all of the fans I go with to Withdean do not use this site, ever. NSC does not represent the views of all Albion fans, far from it, how many regualar posters are there that are Albion fans? 100, 200? Not a lot when you think about it.

 

[Art Vs Science]

Superphil, Thanks, and yes the numbers as someone else pointed out are probably small in representation. I hope that Falmer becomes the thing we had all hoped for atmosphere wise(we all know every other aspect is sorted). I 'Viewed' this site for a long time before dipping my toe in and getting a profile, this gave me an opportunity to know who to avoid is some respects.

 

[Brovion]

... But "You're shit Maybank" will get alot more ignored than someone making a thread about it online. ...

I disagree. I think bellowing in someone's ear is MUCH more influential than starting a thread saying "Maybank's shit isn't he?" After all the booing has apparently affected Poyet more than all the posts and threads on here saying how wonderful he is.

Yes the Argus does use this site and it as good a place as any for gauging fan opinion as it has a 'pretty good' mix of posters. Yes only a tiny fraction of Brighton fans use it and it probably isn't 100% refective of the make-up of the fanbase, but it's fair to say that if the majority of posters on NSC are in favour of something then, if it were possible to poll all Brighton fans, they would be in favour as well. It's a useful sounding board and useful campaign tool, but it doesn't drive the Albion agenda.

As an aside I'm not sure what Superphils' problem with NSC is - my observation is that since 1998 there has always been and probably always will be a mixture of the good, the bad and the ugly on here,

 

[MrShaun15]

please learn to paragraph -.- tooo much bulk text!

 

[Art Vs Science]

please learn to paragraph -.- tooo much bulk text!

Is this an ironic reply? Please learn to spell, Wind your neck in.

 

[Art Vs Science]

"After all the booing has apparently affected Poyet more than all the posts and threads on here saying how wonderful he is." but this type of fan/booing stems from a negative source though. I do agree on a lot of points and some of my original post was an ironic reflection rather than stone cold opinion.

It may have some valid points and i am never in a position to question anything down to an arguement, it is just debate.

 

[Superphil]

As an aside I'm not sure what Superphils' problem with NSC is - my observation is that since 1998 there has always been and probably always will be a mixture of the good, the bad and the ugly on here,

It's a fair point too, sometimes I just feel the ugly on here makes for a poorer site. It has improved over the past couple of years, and of course it should be taken with a pinch of salt, I guess it's the rise of trolling and fishing that has made it sometimes infuriating. I'm for discussion, and I try to make reasonable points, I rise to the bait occasionally, but more often than not it is because I have blue and white tinited specs on I guess.

Anyway, off for some of my mediocre life helping others in the snow round my way

 

[Art Vs Science]

Good luck on the snow. Stay safe.

 

[e77]

Reading posts on here are like when you go to London and think you see a lot more attractive women (or no doubt men if that is your liking) than you do normally purely because there are a lot more people there. There are a lot of really quite bad OTT posts, but when you drill below the surface there is actually quite a lot of well reasoned arguments.