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The House I Live In - BBC4 10pm
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Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
I struggle to understand addiction, when I was younger we would go to the pub and openly have a spliff - believe me it was a normal night out and sometimes we pushed the boat out and had two or three spliffs.
However I never saw or felt any addiction at all or any need to up the ante to heroin etc. A girl at my school died around 20 or so of a heroin overdose and we were all quire shocked however I quit drugs when my employer decided they would do random drug tests.
However I drink and smoke so you could say I am a drug addict and my son smokes dope now but not that often and to be honest I am pretty relaxed about it as I can hardly criticise.
So what ups the ante with drugs to total addiction, it puzzles me...............
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- #23
The stat I was trying to remember earlier:-
5% of the worlds population is American.
25% of the worlds prison pop is American.
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- #24
I'm 'loving' this section.
All the stuff is legal for white middle classes, but illegal for the migrants.
All the stuff is legal for white middle classes, but illegal for the migrants.
RowleyBirkinQ.C(deceased)
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I've never taken drugs but I will never judge as my mum was a well know face on the hippy scene in the 60's and has openly told me about her large consumption of many narcotics.
I've never smoked but I love a drink and although I have alcohol under control I can see how it could take over your life as I lost my uncle to Alcoholism.
RowleyBirkinQ.C(deceased)
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Indeed, the way that guy described why drug use was criminalised in America was shocking. America uses cheap labour to build its nation from different racial groups, they then dislike and distrust those same racial groups they use and start locking them up (Chinese using opium, blacks using cocaine and Hispanics using Marijuana to ease the pain of the hard labour) even though white America had been using powerful narcotics legally as a medicine for years.
BBassic
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- Jul 28, 2011
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Some people get addicted easier, others move on to harder drugs as a try it and see and others as a means to deal with the difficult situation they may have found themselves in.
Imagine living on some shitty estate in Glasgow. No money, no prospects, but hey, no matter cos there's a metric fuckton of smack around. Guess thats what I'm doing today.
Personally, I've indulged in a variety of things and my reason has always been curiosity. Wouldn't say I'm addicted to anything really. Even booze is a take it or leave it thing.
Bevendean Hillbilly
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You sound like me about 20 years ago, liberal parents and a love of social drinking. Thankfully you don't see how it can take over a life. On the flip side though it doesnt do it overnight and it tends to be a mixture of naïveté and just f***ing exuberance that screws people to the wall.
I could add that an uncle dying of alcoholism actually predilics you to alcohol abuse rather than giving you a magic pass but that would be too negative.
Pevenseagull
meh
- Jul 20, 2003
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very indeed, probably watch 'Ted' tonight to cheer me up
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I've just watched the last half hour.
The prison guard:-
Boiling the whole sorry mess down to 2 minutes of talking capitalism.
Proper legendary and NOBODY will listen to a word he says.
Beardy Prof:-
Again brilliantly put, I doubt anybody has ever drawn that line, but jeeez he did it well making it hard to argue against.
Arrested for:-
'Wandering with intent to buy drugs'.
WTF is that all about?
The prison guard:-
Boiling the whole sorry mess down to 2 minutes of talking capitalism.
Proper legendary and NOBODY will listen to a word he says.
Beardy Prof:-
Again brilliantly put, I doubt anybody has ever drawn that line, but jeeez he did it well making it hard to argue against.
Arrested for:-
'Wandering with intent to buy drugs'.
WTF is that all about?
Nibble
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- Jan 3, 2007
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Was well made but apart from a few statistics, shocking as they were, I don't think it was especially groundbreaking. Anyone who's even taken a cursory glance at the American penal system and the drug culture could draw many of the same conclusions. Good to watch though.
n1 gull
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Well I didn't know a lot of stuff, especially about the prisons being built in the towns to create jobs etc. Also, the cops taking the money and cars to fund
their own jobs was very eye opening
Bevendean Hillbilly
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The judge who pointed out that crack cocaine is just powder cocaine which has baking soda and water added and yet it attracts a prison sentence 10 times greater than powder variant because of political posturing during the Reagan era..the fact that 51 % of crack users in California are white but there were NO whites convicted of it last year the analogy between the holocaust and the class war in the states...it is a sick society riven with warped interests and a huge chasm between morality and moralising.
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I believe I'm paraphrasing Greg Proops here:-
'If you want to stop people taking drugs, do stop and search in Canary Wharf, on Friday night'.
'If you want to stop people taking drugs, do stop and search in Canary Wharf, on Friday night'.
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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It was 100X not 10X. Insanity.
There was a lot on that film which was very very important for people to understand, and not just about drugs and drugs laws either, but more generally about power and prejudice and how the two come together to create horror.
Meade's Ball
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Me either. Was a fascinating show.
In the review i'd read it said something like "The creator of The Wire sees this programme as the perfect exposé of the wrongs of the War on Drugs. Powerful and engrossing television." I thought 'oooh it's probably good then', and then of course saw him on the documentary telling his side of things for about 25 minutes of it. No point having it reviewed by the person mainly in it. The same as hearing "He was made for the role and took acting to a new unforeseen height. Cruise is a Jack Reacher more layered than his creator could ever hope to achieve." - David Miscavige, Scientology Leader and Cruise's best man.
A very moving documentary, even though it had a bit of a, but less in-your-face, Michael Moore feel to it.
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Even though I knew the holocaust analogy was coming, and on the face of it, that's a pretty big leap.
But nevertheless it all slotted in and was scary scary stuff.
I know enough of American culture, not to get suckered into the stereotypes.
I know the school shootings doesn't mean everybody is a gun tooting freak.
I know every black American isn't going to sell me crack.
I know every Mexican isn't an illegal immigrant.
But I do think now, well through W's presidency and not quashed by Barrack, is The US is enslaved to big business corporate America, making money with no care and compassion.
And when America sneezes we all catch a cold, if not here already it's coming.
But nevertheless it all slotted in and was scary scary stuff.
I know enough of American culture, not to get suckered into the stereotypes.
I know the school shootings doesn't mean everybody is a gun tooting freak.
I know every black American isn't going to sell me crack.
I know every Mexican isn't an illegal immigrant.
But I do think now, well through W's presidency and not quashed by Barrack, is The US is enslaved to big business corporate America, making money with no care and compassion.
And when America sneezes we all catch a cold, if not here already it's coming.