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Johnny Fever

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Jan 11, 2010
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This is Tim Rich writing in today's Independent about Karl Oyston, the chairman at Blackpool :

....he had not enjoyed the months that followed their play-off victory at Wembley. Blackpool had prepared for the Premier League by doing virtually nothing until last week when half a dozen footballers, ranging from a slightly well known to the completely obscure, arrived at Bloomfield Road, which on the afternoon the Premier Leaue kicked off was a building site.
Oyston's reluctance to sanction any salary higher than £500,000 a year, which would pay for 3 weeks of Yaya Toure, had played a major role in the logjam, although anyone watching the fire sale of players on Humberside as Hull struggle to adjust to their new realities might understand why Oyston called it "not a nightmare but a steep learning curve", with the sort of curves they have on the Avalanche ride on Blackpool's Pleasure Beach.
"I expected the landscape to be different," he said, "I expected the way people behaved to be different and I have been very disappointed in the way some agents have conducted themselves. My offer to step down is still there. I have told the board that, and I am very serious because I am not sure that I have got the right approach for this division and the more I talk to other Premier League clubs the more I realise I am a lone voice. There was some accord with the things I said in the Championship but there does not appear to be any in this division."



Now call him a bit naive if you like, but I think that to get to that level of disillusionment so quickly is telling us a lot about the absolute bear pit that the Premier League has become. Its a world of it's own, and a world gone mad.
Teams like Blackpool are a benchmark for every other lower league club and fans will say that if they can do it then so can we.
What a growing number of fans are also saying is that promotion to the top flight is a poisoned chalise and will more than likely drag your club into a money game that it's impossible to play.
The conflict is in the fact that we support our team to win, not lose, and we want success and promotion because it's exciting. Then one or two seasons later, if you're lucky, it becomes impossible to compete and it's relegation (Burnley) or relegation and financial problems(Hull) or almost complete melt-down (Portsmouth).
I'm not sure, as supporters, this is an easy one to embrace at the moment. It seems that the celebration of success is so short lived that it might hardly be worth it soon.
 




sparkie

Neo-Luddite
Jul 17, 2003
13,514
Hove
I agree, but we can only hope that in the time it takes us to get there ( 3+ years ) then things will have changed in some respect for the better...

:amex: :amex: :amex:
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,517
i think he goes too far. someone pointed out, theres a known £20million budget plus parachute payments. why cant he release half of that to allow a budget of £1.5 a year for a half dozen players?

however i think he is alluding to the agents in particular. i maintain half the problem in football in general is from agents, whos interest is to unsettle and move players around gaining a fee and inflating wages each move. sooner we get them out of the game the sooner we might see a more settled transfer/wage market.

the posioned chalice of the PL is overplayed, a well run club managing its windfall well should come out a well run club with no debts. and they might even stay up, have another go, then a pop at Europe. not everyone screws it up, for Hull and Portsmouth there's Wigan and Fulham.
 




Johnny Fever

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Jan 11, 2010
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Couldn't happen to a nicer family than the Oystons. I wish them nothing but ill.

Blackpool fans have certainly been through it over the years with The Oyston family. Owen Oysten was chairman there for years until he was jailed for rape and then his wife took over. If I remember she was run out of town, as they say, after a well organised fan campaign.
The current Oyston, who is the son, doesn't seem too bad in comparison. He has been very outspoken regarding agents for a while, and was a bit of a whistle-blower a few years ago regarding bungs to clubs and managers.
 








CheeseRolls

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Jan 27, 2009
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Personally, I think the sooner the likes of Manure, Chelski etc bugger off and form a European/International/World League and take their plastic fans with them the better.

Good point and can you imagine the excitement when we finally hit the top league and entertain the likes of Blackpool, Wigan, Blackburn and Stoke. Truly what dreams are made of.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Oyston is being realistic as the odds are heavily stacked against Blackpool avoiding relegation. No point in spending ridiculous wages on players who will piss off to another club after one season. More money will be left from the parachute payments to make them a top Championship side.
 


Johnny Fever

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Jan 11, 2010
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Isn't it a ridiculous state of affairs when a £500,000 a year salary is regarded as very low for a Premier League player.
 


Lush

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Good point and can you imagine the excitement when we finally hit the top league and entertain the likes of Blackpool, Wigan, Blackburn and Stoke. Truly what dreams are made of.

I'd rather play those teams and have a proper competitive match than just be cannon fodder for teams that are so far off a level playing field they might as well be on Mars.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Oyston is being realistic as the odds are heavily stacked against Blackpool avoiding relegation. No point in spending ridiculous wages on players who will piss off to another club after one season. More money will be left from the parachute payments to make them a top Championship side.

Exactly.
Invest within your means, but accept that in all probablity it will be a swift return to the Championship. BUT, with £40m+ in parachute payments over the following 3 years, that gives an excellent opportunity to stabilise the club and build towards being a powerful Championship team that can make regular challenges at the top, and regular forays back into the Prem.

I'd love us to be like another West Brom. They have it just right, never a dull moment being a Baggie.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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What, losing 6-0 to Chelsea on Opening Day?

There's a lot to admire about West Brom but despite several promotions they never manage to survive a la Stoke, Birmingham or Wigan.

This is partly because The Hawthorns is not a fortress, partly because they always lack a decent striker and partly because their football is too open and lacks steel.
 


adrian29uk

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Sep 10, 2003
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At the end of the day no one should be paid more than the Prime Minister, fact. These footballers and their agents have everyone by the balls. In any other industry if they walked in to the MD's office with an agent and asked for 200k a week, they would be told to foff.

These players hold clubs ransom time and time again and then when they don't get what they want they cry like little babies.

The only people that can make the change is the clubs. Clubs need to be strong and set a maximum weekly wage just like any other business, and if the player and his agent does not like this, well they can go and find somewhere else to play. If all clubs set the same maximum wage, the player and his agent will have no choice.

I don't know any other business where you can quadruple your salary overnight.
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Personally, I think the sooner the likes of Manure, Chelski etc bugger off and form a European/International/World League and take their plastic fans with them the better.

Quite right. It would be great day for football - particularly if they did it just after Sky had signed a new three-year contract for the Prem - I bet Murdoch's rage would be a sight to behold.

If there was a competitive PL, I might start to get interested in it again. In my first eight seasons of watching football, there were seven winners of the 1st Division, oh for those days again.

I don't know any other business where you can quadruple your salary overnight.

Drug dealer?
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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What, losing 6-0 to Chelsea on Opening Day?

There's a lot to admire about West Brom but despite several promotions they never manage to survive a la Stoke, Birmingham or Wigan.

This is partly because The Hawthorns is not a fortress, partly because they always lack a decent striker and partly because their football is too open and lacks steel.

Chelsea would probably have done that to just about any bottom-half team in the Prem on Saturday. Teams are raped on a fairly regular basis at the Bridge. And yes, West Brom HAVE on occasion survived (didn't they finally break the bottom-at-Christmas-but-stayed-up hoodoo ?).

I'd love us to be in a constant battle to go up or stay up, bouncing around between the Championship and the Prem. Brum and Wigan have done superbly well of course, but there can't be much fun in rattling around in 13th/14th all season, whatever league you're in.

Gimmie the rollercoaster any day.
 


withdeanwombat

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Feb 17, 2005
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Somersetshire
Rochdale were in the fourth division (tier) for seven hundred and thirty one years in a row.I enjoyed the game on Saturday.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Good point and can you imagine the excitement when we finally hit the top league and entertain the likes of Blackpool, Wigan, Blackburn and Stoke. Truly what dreams are made of.

I support the Albion, they're the team I want to watch, not the opposition.
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
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Nov 12, 2006
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Blackburn (the original buyers of a prem title) look likely to land a rich backer this week. Apparently £100m player fund for Allardyce to play with. Having a super-rich (not just TB rich) backer is now the only way to compete with the top Prem clubs. If you don't have this kind of backing, you simply won't get near the top half of the table.
 


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