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The establishment and historic child sex abuse
- Thread starter Pinkie Brown
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spring hall convert
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This article seems to suggest that Stingemore and Brittan were the only 2 that had been positvely identified by boys at Elm Guest House
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5495/leon-brittan-faced-met-questions-over-elm-guest-house-visits
Nearly as conveninent as Carol Kasir's death.
http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5495/leon-brittan-faced-met-questions-over-elm-guest-house-visits
Nearly as conveninent as Carol Kasir's death.
aolstudios
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Darker & more foul with every, always conveniently too late, revelation
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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So according to the Exaro News website, of the 10 MPs named on the Elm House guestlist 7 are now dead, with just 3 surviving former Tory MPs still around.
I get the impression now Brittan is dead and the police have spectre of returning Jihadis wreaking havoc on our streets there is no longer the appetite for this enquiry from the politicians, police or judiciary. And what incentive is there for victims to come forward and give evidence when they see just how slow the system is to progress matters? They've appointed a complete nobody from the other side of the world to head up the enquiry and I can't see the woman will be able to exercise any authority or influence on the powers that be in this country.
This looks like going down as a sad footnote in British political history when the top brass could do exactly as they pleased with impunity.
This whole affair has been a shambles from top to bottom
I get the impression now Brittan is dead and the police have spectre of returning Jihadis wreaking havoc on our streets there is no longer the appetite for this enquiry from the politicians, police or judiciary. And what incentive is there for victims to come forward and give evidence when they see just how slow the system is to progress matters? They've appointed a complete nobody from the other side of the world to head up the enquiry and I can't see the woman will be able to exercise any authority or influence on the powers that be in this country.
This looks like going down as a sad footnote in British political history when the top brass could do exactly as they pleased with impunity.
This whole affair has been a shambles from top to bottom
And when was the period when they couldn't?
spring hall convert
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I suspect a citizen in this country is more likely to have suffered child sexual abuse at the hands of an establishment figure than have been the victim of any terrorist attack.
Just a hunch, I know those Irish lads got going for a bit.
aolstudios
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Agreed - & amended for you
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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I think that the days of being an active paedophile and holding down a top government job are over now we've got social media and wall-to wall news coverage. Even senior churchmen, civil servants and judges would have a job keeping a lid on it.
If Cameron had a couple of nonces in his cabinet I think he'd reshuffle them out of there toot sweet, rather than do what Thatcher did which was to pretend it wasn't happening.
aolstudios
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It's still being covered up and the ones that are part of the establishment are still somehow avoiding prosecution - all of them.
It's not exactly progress, is it?
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
Fred Talbot guilty on 2 counts out of 10, remanded in custody until 13th March, another one brought to justice. Shows how tough it is to prosecute these historic cases
spring hall convert
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There's two members of the cabinet since 2010 that I strongly believe this has happened to as it goes.
Thatcher did worse than pretend it wasn't happening by my reckoning. I reckon she used it to her advantage.
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
aolstudios
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This has been common knowledge for years. Nice to see it in the national press, though
aolstudios
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spring hall convert
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Just some interesting FYI's on the current cash for access stings.
Rifkind is Leon Brittan's cousin.
Jack Straw - proposed changes to the law making it harder for victims of abuse in care to speak out http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...s-from-telling-their-own-stories-1622154.html
His brother was found guilty of an indecent assault on a 16 year old girl - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/916179.stm
Rifkind is Leon Brittan's cousin.
Jack Straw - proposed changes to the law making it harder for victims of abuse in care to speak out http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...s-from-telling-their-own-stories-1622154.html
His brother was found guilty of an indecent assault on a 16 year old girl - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/916179.stm
spring hall convert
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Kitty update - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31630793
Clearly the BBC now has a vested interest in this case after the searching his house fiasco. I wondered why they were so quick to report around this and still have their head in the sand about Brittan.
Clearly the BBC now has a vested interest in this case after the searching his house fiasco. I wondered why they were so quick to report around this and still have their head in the sand about Brittan.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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Sky News at 10 led with the Cliff story. All so predictable - go for the easy pickings, leave the judges, top civil servants and politicians to die off outside the full glare of publicity.
