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The establishment and historic child sex abuse



Dorset Seagull

Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
fair play to the guy in Trafalgar sq, seen a few of his films and his story. I hope people start looking at the roylas soon, this is a massive eye opener of a video and must be shared untill we have justice for all those children.

Watched 30 mins but couldn't help thinking it was all a bit one sided. Why weren't we able to see the responses to the questions fired at Harriet Harman for example. There were a lot of accusations made but no real hard evidence to back it up apart from a lot of accusational text on screen. It's all very well saying that x has abused and murdered kids and that it is being hushed up by the establishment but I don't call that evidence.
 




Ex-Staffs Gull

New member
Jul 5, 2003
1,687
Adelaide, SA
So Ric Mayall, jill Dando, Peaches Geldof, Mike Smith and Mathew Harding were all murdered by the government who are being blackmailed by Mossad. Esther Ransom ran a pervert protection racket. Sounds plausible :-0
 




Toko

Banned
Jul 20, 2014
30
Watched 30 mins but couldn't help thinking it was all a bit one sided. Why weren't we able to see the responses to the questions fired at Harriet Harman for example. There were a lot of accusations made but no real hard evidence to back it up apart from a lot of accusational text on screen. It's all very well saying that x has abused and murdered kids and that it is being hushed up by the establishment but I don't call that evidence.

What do you mean by one sided? are these victims of child abuse fighting a war too?!
couldn't help thinking you should of watched the whole video before making judgment.
 








The Truth

Banned
Sep 11, 2008
3,754
None of your buisness
What do you mean by one sided? are these victims of child abuse fighting a war too?!
couldn't help thinking you should of watched the whole video before making judgment.

I think he means by saying one-sided, that the victim of child abuse should of at least pointed out where the victims were in the wrong, maybe they were flirting? Or maybe they actually signed up for it.
I guess some people will never want to accept the facts, even when its in black and white.
 


Toko

Banned
Jul 20, 2014
30
So Ric Mayall, jill Dando, Peaches Geldof, Mike Smith and Mathew Harding were all murdered by the government who are being blackmailed by Mossad. Esther Ransom ran a pervert protection racket. Sounds plausible :-0

please don't forget Carole Kasir, the owner of the guest house. She apparently commit suicide not long after speaking out against these people. The video above shows the list she kept of the well known guests of elm house.

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/the-strange-death-of-carole-kasir-owner.html?m=1
 




smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,368
On the ocean wave
Can't help but think there are way too many people with a bit too much fascination in kiddie fiddling.

Unsubscribes from thread.
 


The Truth

Banned
Sep 11, 2008
3,754
None of your buisness
Can't help but think there are way too many people with a bit too much fascination in kiddie fiddling.
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considering the current times, you have a point.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Found something interesting to add, sorry in advance for the length but when needs must:

"Former BBC DJ, Mike Smith, has apparently died of heart surgery ‘complications’.

None of his friends knew he was unwell.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...kept-dark.html

He is the third high-profile BBC name to die in mysterious circumstances this year.

BBC comic, Rik Mayall, also died of a heart-related ‘incident’, despite his wife declaring on the day of his death:

“At least we know it’s not his heart as he’s just had a check-up and been given the all-clear.”

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpres...of-rik-mayall/

Rik knew all about the paedophile ring at the BBC which is linked to government and royalty.

Presenter Peaches Geldof started to tweet the names of child-abusers linked to Ian Watkins.

Her close chum at the BBC, Fearne Cotton, used to date Watkins.

Peaches was soon found dead and a heroin-overdose story was concocted to cover-up her murder.

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpres...roin-overdose/

This was the exact tactic used to kill both Paula Yates and Michael Hutchence, who also knew about Savile and the paedo-ring.

Mike Smith claimed that he had to fend off the advances of male DJ’s when he worked at the BBC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-about.html

Many DJ’s linked to Savile were predatory homosexual paedophiles, including Joe Meek, Chris Denning and Alun Freeman.

Mike Smith and his wife Sarah Greene were nearly killed in 1988 when the helicopter they were in lost power and fell from the sky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2504243.stm

Their careers suffered and they were rarely seen on TV again.

By a strange coincidence, Rik Mayall was also nearly killed in a quad-bike accident and again his career never recovered.

Top BBC presenter Jill Dando knew all about the murderous VIP paedohile ring operating at the BBC.

She tried in vain to alert her bosses but was soon shot dead to silence her and warn other journalists to keep their mouths shut.

Jill was friends with Chelsea boss Matthew Harding who was linked to Mandelson and Blair and realised that Mossad was running blackmail-paedophile rings to trap politicians and celebs.

In 1996, Harding was killed in a helicopter crash when it lost control and fell out of the sky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/35069.stm

We recently published the following post:

” If you thought for one minute that the BBC is, in anyway, as it appears to be, you’re very sadly mistaken.

Behind the comforting British TV façade, lies a paedophile network ,so vast and sordid it literally beggars belief.

It’s ringleaders are so dangerous that speaking out about the abuse can lead to murder.

The following high-profile names were all killed because they had knowledge of the child-raping ways of the BBC:

Jill Dando
Kristian Digby
Natasha Collins
Mark Speight
Kevin Greening
Paula Yates
Rik Mayall
Peaches Geldof
Don’t be fooled into thinking that Jimmy Savile was a lone pervert stalking the broadcast centre.

He wasn’t.

Savile was, in fact, working as a VIP pimp, procuring children to be abused and often murdered, by Royalty, Government and showbiz entertainers.

He managed to hoodwink the British public for over 50 years due to his close links to Prince Philip, the Secret Services and Margaret Thatcher, who were themselves up to their necks in filth of the highest order.”

” Without a shadow of a doubt, these high-profile presenters met their end because they had knowledge of the sordid child-raping activities taking place at the BBC.

In a strange twist, BBC children’s presenter Mark Speight was implicated in the death of his girlfriend Natasha Collins in 2008.

He subsequently disappeared and was found hanging in a disused section of Paddington Station.

We now know Rolf Harris has been arrested by officers from Operation Yewtree., investigating a paedophile ring at the BBC.

It transpires that Mark Speight had done a lot of work with Rolf Harris.

At Mark’s memorial, Rolf made an emotional and tearful address:

‘It was joyful to work with Mark.

‘I realise now that I never told him how much I appreciated his programmes.

‘You realise you should always tell people what you think, you should tell them you love them because it might suddenly be too late.’

Rolf sang Sun Arise, backed by a band complete with didgeridoos.

He also did his version of Led Zeppelin’s Stairway to Heaven.”

We know Mark Speight did volunteer work for Childline and was one of their spokesmen and a high-profile campaigner.

Some say Childline is a “front” organisation used to filter out callers who may have been abused by VIP’s.

The coroner who held the inquiry into the deaths of Mark Speight and Natahsa Collins was Paul Knapman.

Knapman was responsible for many high-profile inquests during his 30-year tenure including the following:

The Clapham Rail Disaster in 1987
The Ladbroke Grove Rail Disaster in 1999
7 July 2005 London Bombings in 2005
He was heavily criticised for his bizarre and gruesome handling of the Marchioness riverboat inquest in 1989:

” Chris Pond MP raised serious and urgent questions relating to the conduct of Westminster coroner, Paul Knapman.

He sought to highlight the shocking treatment of families of victims of the Marchioness boat tragedy by the creepy coroner.

For some unexplained reason, Knapman horrifically allowed the victims hands to be cut off and their body parts and tissues to be removed without permission and treated concerned family members with utter contempt.”

Knapman was up to his old tricks again when he claimed that BBC DJ, Kevin Greening, had killed himself in a gay bondage session that went wrong.

The murder of Jill Dando has remained conveniently ‘unsolved ‘ for the past 16 years.

Since 1998, we’ve heard various theories about possible motives for the murder including the involvement of the Serbian mafia or a revenge attack for her work on Crimewatch.

Were these theories merely red herrings, planted to throw investigators off track?

Most certainly, yes.

You see the brutal murder of Jill Dando was not carried out by a lone-stalker or Serbian warlord.

She was murdered by the British Establishment with help from sly Israeli intel agency, because she was about to expose the ring.

Jill’s close friend and confidante, Cliff Richard, has himself been named as a visitor to the notorious boy-brothel Elm Guest House, where vulnerable children were trafficked from local care homes to be abused by filthy VIPs.

Cliff was interviewed at length by detectives investigating the murder of Jill on several occasions.

Why was he such an important ‘ witness’ ?

Jill’s fiance, Alan Farthing, came face-to-face with Jill’s killer but conveniently forgot to tell the police.

Alan has since risen through the ranks of the medical profession and is now the doctor responsible for the birth of Kate and William’s new baby.

Was his promotion linked to Jill’s murder?

Jill’s colleague on Crimewatch, Nick Ross, recently said he’d watch child-porn given half the chance.

Nick is married to Sarah Caplan the cousin of Esther Rantzen, who is also implicated in the Savile scandal.

Caplan and Rantzen founded Childline which appears to be a ‘front’ organisation used to filter out callers who may have been the victims of VIP child-abuse.

Nick Ross founded the ‘front’ Crimestopper’s helpline.

This helpline conveniently stopped working following an appeal for witnesses to Jill’s murder.

There were many procedural ‘mistakes‘ made by the Met Police during their investigations.”

Top judge Lord Neuburger hates social media and wants Twitter to be state-controlled.

His wife Angela was a top BBC executive.

She was also the producer of Crimewatch and a close friend and colleague of Nick Ross and Esther Rantzen.

http://thecolemanexperience.wordpres...edophile-ring/

In 2002, Mike Smith became embroiled in a legal and financial battle with the agent of his sister-in-law, Laura Greene.

The agent was Jon Roseman.

Roseman’s most famous client was none other that Jill Dando.

How very, very strange indeed.

Is there more to the mysterious death of Mike Smith than meets the eye?

We haven’t got a bloody clue.

Have you?

http://www.theguardian.com/media/200.../broadcasting3


http://thecolemanexperience.wordpres...edophile-ring/ "


Hello HybridX :banana:
 




Toko

Banned
Jul 20, 2014
30
Hello HybridX :banana:

goodmorning Pastafarian, I am toko a new poster but long time watcher. Nice of you to compare me with hybridx but lets be honest his post were a tad more consise than this one above. I will work on it tho.
 




dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
I think he means by saying one-sided, that the victim of child abuse should of at least pointed out where the victims were in the wrong, maybe they were flirting? Or maybe they actually signed up for it.
I guess some people will never want to accept the facts, even when its in black and white.

No, that is not what he means at all. He means he doesn't want to watch a cross examination complete with all the probing and suggestive questions, but void of any of the answers given to those questions. It's not hard to see what he is saying, and he is right.

I think it's really important that when people want to make a point or share information that is is based only on evidence and facts. Sometimes that's difficult and annoying but I am sure you are someone who really hates government spin and propaganda. Well most of that is just people being lazy and presenting what they are "sure" is true, as if it definitely was, and that is exactly what you are in danger of doing too.
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
What do you mean by one sided? are these victims of child abuse fighting a war too?!
couldn't help thinking you should of watched the whole video before making judgment.

Hybrid X, another account? You are busy. I so hope yo have re-thought your position on the holocaust?

Anyway, I do hope you have been well, 3rd, 4th account now is it?

It genuinely wouldn't surprise me to learn if any or all of that long post above was true. Mossad may be pushing it slightly.
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Hello HybridX :banana:

It so is isn't it. The last 2nd account he created was called out and I got a string of PM's from whatever name he had his second account under, writen in exactly Hybrid X's style asking such things as

"Who is this Hybrid X you speak of"?
"How can you accuse me with no evidence"?

It was actually a bit creepy.

It's either hybrid x , which is a bit distasteful seeing as he was banned for holocaust denial no less, or The Truth setting up a sock puppet. I would expect nothing more from either of them.
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
goodmorning Pastafarian, I am toko a new poster but long time watcher. Nice of you to compare me with hybridx but lets be honest his post were a tad more consise than this one above. I will work on it tho.

You utter, utter, loser.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
*Ahem*

What do you mean by one sided? are these victims of child abuse fighting a war too?!
couldn't help thinking you should of watched the whole video before making judgment.

compare with:

I think people are actually starting to wake up!
2 years ago, if you'd mentioned governments working alongside terrorist organisations, someone would of passed judgment on your mental health!

"Group think" is a very media/marketing oriented buzzword!?
 






Dorset Seagull

Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
What do you mean by one sided? are these victims of child abuse fighting a war too?!
couldn't help thinking you should of watched the whole video before making judgment.

Not sure what relevance one sided has to the victims as I was referring to the fact that for the 30 mins I watched there just seemed to be a list of outlandish claims with no evidence. Do people seriously believe a prime minister was abusing kids on a yacht and then murdering them and throwing them over board. Why would you need to murder them? Where have all these dead bodies reappeared etc etc.

I am prepared to have an open mind on most things but the claims in this footage needed to be backed up by factual evidence, none of which I saw in the 30 mins I watched, in order to give them any credibility
 


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