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nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
13,967
Manchester
The numbers show this to be true, women are paid less for the same jobs when they have the same experience and qualifications. If 'we' didn't casually support this, it wouldn't be happening.
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Going slightly off topic, but what numbers are these then? Last report I saw on gender pay showed that there was no difference.

Women overall earn less than men, but it's more to do with career choices in that they tend to pursue less well paid occupatiina and take career breaks to have kids.

If women really did get paid less than men for the same jobs, then companies would just employ women.
 






Diablo

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Sep 22, 2014
4,236
lewes
If you were a pretty girl...with the option of working at Macdonalds for £5 hour or Glamour Model at £1000day...which would you take ?
 


piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
And get paid a lot of money to do so too.

Terrible exploitation that. Terrible insult to women too. Not allowed to look at women in the flesh, it's just not natural.
 


piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
Can you tell me whats wrong with a man being sexually attracted to a seually attractive female?

Absolutely nothing is the answer but we have been socialised by the one legged bra burners to think that it is not normal.
 








Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,917
Hove
If you were a pretty girl...with the option of working at Macdonalds for £5 hour or Glamour Model at £1000day...which would you take ?

Absolutely nothing is the answer but we have been socialised by the one legged bra burners to think that it is not normal.

What are all you loons on about!?

This isn't about censoring women being glamour models, or getting their kit off for photos whenever they please.

It is the appropriateness of a portrayal of women in a NEWSpaper.

Bloodyhell, anyone would think the feminists are overreacting shrill screaming bedwetters, but they're nothing compared to half the posters on here throwing their toys out of their prams because there is no longer a pair of tits in a NEWSPAPER!
 




spring hall convert

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2009
9,608
Brighton
What are all you loons on about!?

This isn't about censoring women being glamour models, or getting their kit off for photos whenever they please.

It is the appropriateness of a portrayal of women in a NEWSpaper.

Bloodyhell, anyone would think the feminists are overreacting shrill screaming bedwetters, but they're nothing compared to half the posters on here throwing their toys out of their prams because there is no longer a pair of tits in a NEWSPAPER!

The funny thing about it is, is that this is actually an economic argument more than anything else. Nuts and Zoo have stopped - why? Because there are an infinite amount of breasts on the internet. If no other woman ever agreed to show her tits for money again, there are more than enough pairs of tits out there to keep the comitted onanist busy for the rest of their lives.

Glamour models are just suffering from the same market forces as musicians. The internet is killing their industry. Nobody owes them a living.

Perhaps we are about to go through an era of glamour models crowd funding?
 


TimWatt

Active member
Feb 13, 2011
166
Richmond
It may or not be the case that page 3 was merely a harmless bit of titilation etc. but that's not the point, and those that may think that's all it's about simply aren't getting it (ahem)...
In reality, the world exists in more ways than perceived through simply headed men's eyes.
Also, there may be more indirect victims of this deliberate dumbing down/infantilising of 'readers', such as those near to them.
And, multiplied by its casual availability, that's why this victory does represent something significant.
 


I am friends with one of the girls who organised it all on FB (used to work with her) and believe me they are celebrating like a 5-0 win against Palace. The official title for the campaign was 'No More Page Three' but I feel a better title may have been "We hate men, no really hate them, aaaagggghhhh we really hate men"

Close friends huh :)

It's not a victory at all, it really is the dumbest, most snobbish, most patronising wing of feminism celebrating this non event. Feminism has many different streams of thought, many of whom dont give a damn about this Mary Whitehouse for lefties campaign.

First off, the tits have just been moved behind the paywall, not abolished. It's just a money making move targeted at Sun readers.

Second, what they replaced the consensual posed pics with was non-consensual bikini snaps of celebs. Just as much objectification as before - but with the added insult of consent - a key feminist demand - also being removed.

You have to be a spectacular fool to see anything worth celebrating here.
 






User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
No we haven't.

What the "one-legged bra-burners" object to is men judging women's worth solely on their looks.
Since when has enjoying looking at page 3 made this the case ? You're saying that liking a nice pair of tits on page 3 inevitably means I will judge ALL women solely on their looks right ? Christ what a grey ,boring sterile world you and the likes of you want , you've certainly turned football into the atmosphere free bore fest that that you want for society in general.
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,121
Close friends huh :)

It's not a victory at all, it really is the dumbest, most snobbish, most patronising wing of feminism celebrating this non event. Feminism has many different streams of thought, many of whom dont give a damn about this Mary Whitehouse for lefties campaign.

First off, the tits have just been moved behind the paywall, not abolished. It's just a money making move targeted at Sun readers.

Second, what they replaced the consensual posed pics with was non-consensual bikini snaps of celebs. Just as much objectification as before - but with the added insult of consent - a key feminist demand - also being removed.

You have to be a spectacular fool to see anything worth celebrating here.
Overly intellectual nonsense.

Massive differences between a random topless 18 year old on Page 3 and a film star on a beach.

The celebrity in bikini beach pictures are obviously several steps down the exploitation/degradation tariff.
 


Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
OK - not a victory as such, but a perhaps symbolic milestone ...

Yep, up there with the first flight across the Atlantic, the discovery of penicillin, and over 50 years of Coronation Street. A bit like when Elvis died, i shall remember where i was and what i was doing when this milestone was reached.
 




Diablo

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 22, 2014
4,236
lewes
What are all you loons on about!?

This isn't about censoring women being glamour models, or getting their kit off for photos whenever they please.

It is the appropriateness of a portrayal of women in a NEWSpaper.

Bloodyhell, anyone would think the feminists are overreacting shrill screaming bedwetters, but they're nothing compared to half the posters on here throwing their toys out of their prams because there is no longer a pair of tits in a NEWSPAPER!

With all the bad news about..Murder..plane crashes...Kidnapping..etc etc....Surely the picture of a pretty girl showing off her assets is something to smile about... The Sun a NEWS paper, thats stretching it a bit. One step up from News of the World perhaps.
 


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,216
Absolutely nothing is the answer but we have been socialised by the one legged bra burners to think that it is not normal.
No we haven't, we have just developed a more respectful way of expressing that attraction. Well on the most part anyway.
 


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