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Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6446193.stm

Entertainment giant Viacom Media says it will sue web search engine Google and its video-sharing website YouTube for $1bn (£517m).

Viacom, which owns MTV and Nickelodeon, says YouTube uses its shows illegally.

Viacom alleges that about 160,000 unauthorised clips of its programmes have been loaded onto YouTube's site and viewed more than 1.5 billion times.

Google says it is "confident" that YouTube has respected the legal rights of copyright holders.

As well as more than $1bn in damages, the legal action seeks an injunction to prevent what Viacom calls "massive intentional copyright infringement".

'Clearly illegal'

"YouTube's strategy has been to avoid taking proactive steps to curtail the infringement on its site," said Viacom in a statement.


There is no question that YouTube and Google are continuing to take the fruit of our efforts without permission
Viacom


"Their business model, which is based on building traffic and selling advertising off of unlicensed content, is clearly illegal and is in obvious conflict with copyright laws."

Last month, Viacom, which also owns cable networks VH1 and Comedy Central, told YouTube to remove 100,000 "unauthorised" clips.

Viacom said its demand came after YouTube and Google failed to install tools to "filter" the unauthorised video clips following negotiations.

"There is no question that YouTube and Google are continuing to take the fruit of our efforts without permission and destroying enormous value in the process," it said.


"This is value that rightfully belongs to the writers, directors and talent who create it and companies like Viacom that have invested to make possible this innovation and creativity."


A Google spokesperson said: "We have not received the lawsuit but are confident that YouTube has respected the legal rights of copyright holders and believe the courts will agree.

"YouTube is great for users and offers real opportunities to rights holders: the opportunity to interact with users; to promote their content to a young and growing audience; and to tap into the online advertising market.

"We will certainly not let this suit become a distraction to the continuing growth and strong performance of YouTube and its ability to attract more users, more traffic and build a stronger community."

The soaring popularity of YouTube has led traditional media to worry that the displaying of clips from their programmes - without compensation - will lure away viewers, and, as a result, advertising revenue.

Google, which paid $1.65bn for YouTube last year, has been trying to win permission from media companies to broadcast output legally on YouTube in exchange for payment, avoiding the threat of legal action.

Separately, the BBC has struck a content deal with YouTube to showcase short clips of BBC content.

The BBC hopes that the deal will help it reach YouTube's monthly audience of more than 70 million users and drive extra traffic to its own website.

The corporation will also get a share of the advertising revenue generated by traffic to the new YouTube channels.
 






DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
It'll be settled out of court I'm sure, but the restrictions they'll have to put in place could seriously hurt them, yes.
 




Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
Wozza said:
Nope.

Viacom, like all the other media giants, will use the copyright infringement as a bargaining tool when it comes to negotiating a licensing deal.

So in theory, everything will be the same (or at least appear the same to the casual viewer)?

Fantastic:clap2:
 




DJ Leon

New member
Aug 30, 2003
3,446
Hassocks
Wozza said:
Nope.

Viacom, like all the other media giants, will use the copyright infringement as a bargaining tool when it comes to negotiating a licensing deal.

Indeed, it's a certainty.
 










Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,711
Living In a Box
Marching into pooh land
 










Wozza

Custom title
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
25,222
Minteh Wonderland
NMH said:
They probably want to buy youtube.
It's the people's vid-posting site, I can't see how they could accuse youtube of "using shows illegally".
I sincerely doubt they'd have hosted for this long without having kind of legal escape-clause.

:thud:

I don't think Google are selling.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,970
Surrey
You have to say that Viacom have got a case. There aren't exactly many safeguards put into place by youtube to prevent copyrighted images being uploaded. Understandable really, because Viacom are spot on when they say youtube's business model is based on building traffic and selling advertising off of unlicensed content.
 




Deano's Right Foot

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
3,925
Barcombe
There will be a settlement along the lines of the settlement with Universal Music group and Warner Music last year. The music companies and YouTube will share advertising revenue and pay them an annual fee.

Unfortunately as the spohisticated Digital Rights Mechaniisms needed are not in place to track exactly which songs and performances are broadcast and so the money will sit in the Universal and Warner bank accounts and probably not be paid to the creators if the Intellectual Copyright, the performers and songwriters. And if by some reason they are paid then it will be along the lines of their artist agreements - maybe 15% of the income. Easy money for the dinosaur music corporations.

Quel surprise
t:angry:
 


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