The Corby By-election

[Doc Lynam]

I want to know why Frank Zappa was standing :
View attachment 36444

I would vote for him, rather then these numpties i feel no connection to.

 

[stripeyshark]

I'm bored with UKIP. We live in a global economy ffs. Bunch of tossers, it's all one big protest vote brought on by the MPs expenses scandal and the recession.

Small issues then?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm bored with UKIP. We live in a global economy ffs. Bunch of tossers, it's all one big protest vote brought on by the MPs expenses scandal and the recession.

Quite. A vote for being in the euro slow lane being dictated to by the main land.

 

[Grassman]

True, but David was for Iraq war and was not afraid to admit that. That could've drastically plummet his approval ratings had he be Labour leader.

I agree. I mean for him to agree with the forced removal of a Fascist dictator goes against everything the left in this country agrees with these days. I'm sure there was a time when the left was anti-fascist.

 

[The Spanish]

that mad cow mensch has to take the blame for the swing and shift in votes rather than labour or farage can take credit

 

[Philzo-93]

I agree. I mean for him to agree with the forced removal of a Fascist dictator goes against everything the left in this country agrees with these days. I'm sure there was a time when the left was anti-fascist.

Yes and I totally agree that we should definitely get involved in international affairs illegally and help USA get rid of the threat of WOMD's even though they were the buggers that has been leading the arms deals with Iraq for decades.

 

[Pevenseagull]

In the PCC election in Sussex, there was a swing of 10.5 per cent from Conservative to Labour - so maybe Corby isn't unique.

swing from dance teacher to magistrate?

 

[Pevenseagull]

I love Gilbert and Sullivan

 

[Medwayseagull]

The Lib Dems area spent force for the forseeable future and changing their leader won't alter that. Getting into bed with the Tories and then playing second fiddle to support Tory policies, particularly on the mismanagement of the economy, has destroyed half their core vote; which was always soft in the first place.

 

[cunning fergus]

Quite. A vote for being in the euro slow lane being dictated to by the main land.

What is the euro slow lane? There is no fast or slow lane there is either in or out. The UK electorate has historically been lukewarm at best to joining and given the current ongoing crisis is not predisposed to joining any time soon. All the major parties publicly support that position, so even a vote for pro European parties is a vote for out. On this issue , the Ukip position on the euro at least is a position other parties have moved to over recent years.

As for being dictated to by the mainland (i presume you mean the continental countries/ec) frankly that is exactly what is happening now. Notwithstanding how the how the political/legislative decisions are made and enforced by the ec, the Lisbon Treaty ensured that qualified majority voting would mean that the UK could be dictated to in matters that the democratically elected Govt of this country (and its electorate) oppose.

There is the rub, I suspect the only people in this country who would support the UK being "dictated to by the mainland" are fascist types, quislings and Germans.

 

[The Spanish]

What is the euro slow lane? There is no fast or slow lane there is either in or out. The UK electorate has historically been lukewarm at best to joining and given the current ongoing crisis is not predisposed to joining any time soon. All the major parties publicly support that position, so even a vote for pro European parties is a vote for out. On this issue , the Ukip position on the euro at least is a position other parties have moved to over recent years.

As for being dictated to by the mainland (i presume you mean the continental countries/ec) frankly that is exactly what is happening now. Notwithstanding how the how the political/legislative decisions are made and enforced by the ec, the Lisbon Treaty ensured that qualified majority voting would mean that the UK could be dictated to in matters that the democratically elected Govt of this country (and its electorate) oppose.

There is the rub, I suspect the only people in this country who would support the UK being "dictated to by the mainland" are fascist types, quislings and Germans.

there you go

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

The Lib Dems area spent force for the forseeable future and changing their leader won't alter that. Getting into bed with the Tories and then playing second fiddle to support Tory policies, particularly on the mismanagement of the economy, has destroyed half their core vote; which was always soft in the first place.

Many JCL LibDem voters will vanish at the next election , aghast at what their vote meant to the country last time around.

 

[Kumquat]

that mad cow mensch has to take the blame for the swing and shift in votes rather than labour or farage can take credit

Funnily enough she has taken the blame according today's papers.

 

[Pavilionaire]

The Lib Dems will take a beating at the next election then, when the next government messes up, they'll be back. Such is the cyclical nature of politics in this country. I think Labour messed up so badly last time many will be scared to vote for them until such time as buffoons like Red Ed, Balls, Cooper et al have been replaced by a David Miliband led recovery too. UKIP will drift away and those votes will be reclaimed.

 

[Dunk]

I think the following will happen next election:
Labour will win a small majority. It's the economy, stupid, and things aren't pretty.
Conservatives will come second.
Lib-Dems will lose a load of seats with yellow turning red and blue fairly evenly.
UKIP will get a reasonable percentage overall, 10-15%, but it will be evenly split to give no seats. They need a heartland like the Greens in Brighton. They will split the Tory vote though.
Regional parties will suffer marginal losses only.

I could be wrong and I usually avoid politics on here as people seem to have aggressively strong views, but this just seems to me to be the way the tide is flowing.

I may be biased as I am a Labour voter and I hope the Tories don't win. We will see.

 

[Don Quixote]

No, UKIP are not the third party, what do they actually stand for apart from the obvious? They are a joke.

 

[Grassman]

Yes and I totally agree that we should definitely get involved in international affairs illegally and help USA get rid of the threat of WOMD's even though they were the buggers that has been leading the arms deals with Iraq for decades.

So the USA were the leading arms dealers in Iraq, were they? Where did you read that? It's bullsh*t mate. Go check it out. Between 1973 and 2002 Russia/USSR supplied nearly 60%, the French 12% and China 12%. The USA actually supplied less than half of 1% and the Brits about 0.16%. But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of what the US bashers say.

P.S. That info comes from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Yours came from The Beano.

 

[Philzo-93]

So the USA were the leading arms dealers in Iraq, were they? Where did you read that? It's bullsh*t mate. Go check it out. Between 1973 and 2002 Russia/USSR supplied nearly 60%, the French 12% and China 12%. The USA actually supplied less than half of 1% and the Brits about 0.16%. But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of what the US bashers say.

P.S. That info comes from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Yours came from The Beano.

I'm not going to get any more political on this subject, let us agree to disagree.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

No, UKIP are not the third party, what do they actually stand for apart from the obvious? They are a joke.

Maybe, but they will take a lot of votes from the Tories at the next Election.

With a dreadful leader, and very similar spending plans (despite what they say) to the Tories, Labour are unelectable.

The lib dems will be wiped off the political map.

The choices are frankly awful.

 

[Grassman]

I'm not going to get any more political on this subject, let us agree to disagree.

So we are gonna agree to disagree are we? About what? The fact the USA wasn't a leading supplier to Iraq and you said it was! Oh, okay then.