[Travel] The 15 Minute City and Low Traffic Neighborhoods.

[jcdenton08]

Should that not be muted?

Witty! I found the witty post on NSC. Sorry HWT but it made me chuckle, no hard feelings old chap…

 

[CheeseRolls]

Strange times we live in. I have been driving for over 30 years and today's cars are so much more comfortable than anything I could possibly afford back then, yet the over all driving experience is dismal.

Everyone agrees that dog owners should pick up their dog's mess and most people comply. If local government stopped enforcing this, then there would be no point in picking up your dog's mess when you risk treading in what everyone else has left behind. Sometimes selfish people need to be compelled to change for the benefit of everyone.

 

[Stat Brother]

No point digging out my Rolls Royce thread from the other day, when this fits here almost as well.

 

[brightn'ove]

The policy is to charge people £70 if they drive from one zone to another. They hope is to create a "15 minute city" as a result, whereby all zones have shops, doctors, and the rest within 15 minutes walk or bike ride of home. (Which obviously for pensioners means about 200 yards, though with difficulties about carrying the shopping home!)
Where the plan falls down, or hasn't been thought through, is that it must of necessity involve families moving round if they don't want to live in separate "zones". Otherwise, the council will offer permits in certain circumstances for people to cross zones, a limited number of times a year, to go and visit relatives. That's where a load of the opposition comes from. Some people (not just right wingers) don't agree with the basic principle that the council has the right to control how often, and when, you go and visit family and friends, and that visiting family and friends can only be done by paying a swingeing fee or by getting a licence from the local council. If councils are to be given that sort of control over freedom of movement, it ought to be by Act of Parliament and be properly debated (and hopefully thrown out).

This argument isn't about whether creation of 15-minute cities is a good idea, it's about whether restricted driving zones is a good idea. (As a caveat, they have said that if you drive out to the ring road, go round, and drive back in again, you can avoid the charge. I'm not sure how the extra driving would benefit anyone's environment.)

who the f*** is they? what is 'the policy'?

It's a wingnut conspiracy theory and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker.

 

[Triggaaar]

No point digging out my Rolls Royce thread from the other day, when this fits here almost as well.

Going to be waiting a long time

 

[worthingseagull123]

The signage suggests otherwise.

Where is the cyclist in the video?

 

[jackalbion]

Brighton and Adur have signed up to this . It could get interesting . I saw a video yesterday of woman who wanted to get through some barriers and said she was willing to pay the fine and the so called security guards would not let her .

If they banned cars from most parts of Brighton, I would simply get the bus and stop moaning, Brighton probably has one of the best bus networks in the country.

 

[Stat Brother]

Where is the cyclist in the video?

Last night I think you must have turned off your sarcasm detector.

 

[worthingseagull123]

Last night I think you must have turned off your sarcasm detector.

Oh so it is some idiot on Twitter trying to be clever?

How original.