[News] Terror threat raised

[portlock seagull]

Wow, Manchester Arena, 7/7. 1/10 for terror? How can you say arguably ever was. God know how many real terror attacks have been thwarted, its very real, but yes doesnt change much of what most of us do daily

Because Vienna was nothing like these! Are you terrified (key word) by cars? Because more people died on your local roads from these in the last 12 months than this nutter killed in Vienna.

I think there’s a tendency these days, because of social media, to try and link yourself to whatever tragic event wherever in the world it happens eg “I was only ‘there’ last week“ or “My friend lives in London and could have been killed” Etc Etc. Almost a desire to feel somehow affected.

But fortunately we’re not, there’s a minute tiny tiny percentage chance. So there’s no need to feel terrified.

Now, if I was popping out to the shops in Aleppo that would be truly terrifying. That’s a daily live and death situation. Risk of some nutter killing me or a friend/family when we go to an airport once a year, or occasional trip into a city centre or even the Amex...? Nah, not going to lose any sleep over that. Feck ‘em. And their stupid warped way of thinking.

 

[portlock seagull]

As long as it's not happening to them, people dont care. Selfish

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No, that’s normal. It would be abnormal to spend your life worrying about a zillion things that could/might/perhaps etc happen when it almost certainly won’t. Here in the UK, how many people have been killed by “terrorism” this year? And btw, that’s quite a subjective label but let’s not be too pedantic. How many this year?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

No, that’s normal. It would be abnormal to spend your life worrying about a zillion things that could/might/perhaps etc happen when it almost certainly won’t. Here in the UK, how many people have been killed by “terrorism” this year? And btw, that’s quite a subjective label but let’s not be too pedantic. How many this year?

That's not the point , the point is there's Islamic extremists living in this country waiting to harm us
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DF

 

[The Clamp]

That's not the point , the point is there's Islamic extremist living in this country waiting to harm us
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DF

You'll probably be alright, you spend all day indoors.

 

[portlock seagull]

That's not the point , the point is there's Islamic extremist living in this country waiting to harm us
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DF

How many terrorist related deaths this year? Any idea?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

How many terrorist related deaths this year? Any idea?

None , how many Islamic extremists living in the country waiting to harm us ?
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DF

 

[portlock seagull]

None , how many Islamic extremists living in the country waiting to harm us ?
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DF

That’s a different question. I’m working with facts. And if no one, this year, has been killed by a terrorist out of a population of near 70million, then I’d say we’ve not much cause to go about our daily lives feeling terrified.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

That’s a different question. I’m working with facts. And if no one, this year, has been killed by a terrorist out of a population of near 70million, then I’d say we’ve not much cause to go about our daily lives feeling terrified.

So Islamic extremists living in the UK waiting to harm us isn't a fact ....right on
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DF

 

[portlock seagull]

So Islamic extremists living in the UK waiting to harm us isn't a fact ....right on
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DF

The point was about how you feel re: the current level of terrorism. Not whether it exists or not, and from where. That’s entirely different.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No, that’s normal. It would be abnormal to spend your life worrying about a zillion things that could/might/perhaps etc happen when it almost certainly won’t. Here in the UK, how many people have been killed by “terrorism” this year? And btw, that’s quite a subjective label but let’s not be too pedantic. How many this year?

Can't remember why I put you on ignore. Brexit maybe? That was a sensible comment.

Let's see which dimbot disagrees....

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That's not the point , the point is there's Islamic extremists living in this country waiting to harm us
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DF

Ah.

How amusing.

Come on Das Reich. What are you going to do about it? Move on

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Ah.

How amusing.

Come on Das Reich. What are you going to do about it? Move on

Amusing H I'm sure these types are being monitored, where are we moving on to by the way ?
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DF

 

[zefarelly]

My terror threat has been elevated for quite some time, it went to the highest level when a clown won the general election.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Amusing H I'm sure these types are being monitored, where are we moving on to by the way ?
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DF

If 'these types' are being monitored, we can move on to something else. surely?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

If 'these types' are being monitored, we can move on to something else. surely?

No, unfortunately we can't because as you know there's always the rogue one that slips the net

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DF

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No, unfortunately we can't because as you know there's always the rogue one that slips the net

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DF

This is true.

What do you consider an appropriate solution?

My view is that despite the low statistical risk, it would make sense to intervene more rigorously since the consequences of the actions of one rogue are devastating. Someone looking at internet hate preaching (or worse) should perhaps be treated like someone viewing indecent images of children. Once someone has been convicted of giving succour to organisations of devilry, they certainly shouldn't be so easily cast basck into society simply by completing a deradicalisation course. As a psychiatrist in America once said in relation to material he obtained by intervieweing prisoners "I have come to the conclusion that these subjects sometimes tell lies"....

I do think it's pretty easy, though, these days to discriminate between an ordinary law abiding Muslim citizen, and someone dangerous, so upping the ante could be done without victimising innocent folk. After all, not every former skin head is a neo Nazi, plotting to bomb a gay bar, and having right wing views in general is perfectly acceptable; the minority nut jobs are fairly easy to identify and the secret service picks them up easily enough without offending anyone.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

This is true.

What do you consider an appropriate solution?

My view is that despite the low statistical risk, it would make sense to intervene more rigorously since the consequences of the actions of one rogue are devastating. Someone looking at internet hate preaching (or worse) should perhaps be treated like someone viewing indecent images of children. Once someone has been convicted of giving succour to organisations of devilry, they certainly shouldn't be so easily cast basck into society simply by completing a deradicalisation course. As a psychiatrist in America once said in relation to material he obtained by intervieweing prisoners "I have come to the conclusion that these subjects sometimes tell lies"....

I do think it's pretty easy, though, these days to discriminate between an ordinary law abiding Muslim citizen, and someone dangerous, so upping the ante could be done without victimising innocent folk. After all, not every former skin head is a neo Nazi, plotting to bomb a gay bar, and having right wing views in general is perfectly acceptable; the minority nut jobs are fairly easy to identify and the secret service picks them up easily enough without offending anyone.

I think these people should be taken out of General society and interned, that's probably considered extreme by some but we are dealing with extremists,oh and the little dig about bombing gay pubs has been noted
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DF