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BBC News - Sycamore Gap jury told to 'set emotion aside'

I’m interested to know the warped alleged motive. Didn’t like people visiting in numbers causing congestion, just wanted to ruin something that made people happy?
 




Cotton Socks

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Feb 20, 2017
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10 days set aside for a tree? A quick google has told me 5 days gets set aside for a rape trial. 2 rape trials for one tree? Yes it's an important tree, but it is a tree that is basically used as a picture backdrop.

B&HCC have just illegally felled hundreds of trees in the woods around Brighton (they didn't have a licence), during nesting season & have destroyed habitats & have ironically left dangerous overhanging branches (which I'm not going to report as that will give them a reason to cut more).

If they get found guilty after the 10 day trial (that's basically clogging up the system), are they going to be sent to prison & take up space? How can it take 10 days to decide whether a couple of tw@ts decided to cut down a tree or not? We're paying for this prosecution & I don't think there will be anymore 'copycat' crimes to find the need to make an example of them! 🤦‍♀️
 




Zeberdi

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B&HCC have just illegally felled hundreds of trees in the woods around Brighton (they didn't have a licence), during nesting season & have destroyed habitats & have ironically left dangerous overhanging branches (which I'm not going to report as that will give them a reason to cut more).
That’s shocking. People should report any pruning or felling shrubs/trees immediately to the Wildlife Crime Officer at their local police force if there is good reason to believe there are active nests in them. It is illegal under the Wildlife Act to “intentionally take, damage or destroy the nest of any wild bird while it is in use or being built”.

It is worth reporting the contractors to the council - often these contractors have rolling annual agreements with the Council to prune/clear areas but the Council may not have stipulated when that’s done or be aware of when the work is taking place.
 




Thunder Bolt

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10 days set aside for a tree? A quick google has told me 5 days gets set aside for a rape trial. 2 rape trials for one tree? Yes it's an important tree, but it is a tree that is basically used as a picture backdrop.

B&HCC have just illegally felled hundreds of trees in the woods around Brighton (they didn't have a licence), during nesting season & have destroyed habitats & have ironically left dangerous overhanging branches (which I'm not going to report as that will give them a reason to cut more).

If they get found guilty after the 10 day trial (that's basically clogging up the system), are they going to be sent to prison & take up space? How can it take 10 days to decide whether a couple of tw@ts decided to cut down a tree or not? We're paying for this prosecution & I don't think there will be anymore 'copycat' crimes to find the need to make an example of them! 🤦‍♀️
A lot depends on how many witnesses are called. By definition a rape trial would have fewer witnesses.
Fraud trials take weeks or sometimes even months.
 




Weststander

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That’s shocking. People should report any pruning or felling shrubs/trees immediately to the Wildlife Crime Officer at their local police force if there is good reason to believe there are active nests in them. It is illegal under the Wildlife Act to “intentionally take, damage or destroy the nest of any wild bird while it is in use or being built”.

It is worth reporting the contractors to the council - often these contractors have rolling annual agreements with the Council to prune/clear areas but the Council may not have stipulated when that’s done or be aware of when the work is taking place.

Aside from bats, I know the potential bird nesting season is all of March to September. I think of it as the other way round, in that tree contractors should make damn sure there are no active nests.
 


Thunder Bolt

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That’s shocking. People should report any pruning or felling shrubs/trees immediately to the Wildlife Crime Officer at their local police force if there is good reason to believe there are active nests in them. It is illegal under the Wildlife Act to “intentionally take, damage or destroy the nest of any wild bird while it is in use or being built”.

It is worth reporting the contractors to the council - often these contractors have rolling annual agreements with the Council to prune/clear areas but the Council may not have stipulated when that’s done or be aware of when the work is taking place.
Plymouth council chopped nearly all of their city centre trees (110) down without any recourse.

 


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Is it PotG?

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Simples, find another similar tree and .........

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Seagull on the Hill

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Jan 22, 2022
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10 days set aside for a tree? A quick google has told me 5 days gets set aside for a rape trial. 2 rape trials for one tree? Yes it's an important tree, but it is a tree that is basically used as a picture backdrop.

B&HCC have just illegally felled hundreds of trees in the woods around Brighton (they didn't have a licence), during nesting season & have destroyed habitats & have ironically left dangerous overhanging branches (which I'm not going to report as that will give them a reason to cut more).

If they get found guilty after the 10 day trial (that's basically clogging up the system), are they going to be sent to prison & take up space? How can it take 10 days to decide whether a couple of tw@ts decided to cut down a tree or not? We're paying for this prosecution & I don't think there will be anymore 'copycat' crimes to find the need to make an example of them! 🤦‍♀️
The tree felling that has taken place in the woods around Stanmer Park is tantamount to vandalism.
The contractors have far exceeded their remit and have cut down many healthy trees in addition to the trees suffering from Ash die-back. It is rumoured that they made around £60000 from selling the extra timber.
They have also left the area in a terrible mess, with unwanted branches lying all over the place, and deep ruts in the footpaths where they have used heavy machinery.
 


BLOCK F

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10 days set aside for a tree? A quick google has told me 5 days gets set aside for a rape trial. 2 rape trials for one tree? Yes it's an important tree, but it is a tree that is basically used as a picture backdrop.

B&HCC have just illegally felled hundreds of trees in the woods around Brighton (they didn't have a licence), during nesting season & have destroyed habitats & have ironically left dangerous overhanging branches (which I'm not going to report as that will give them a reason to cut more).

If they get found guilty after the 10 day trial (that's basically clogging up the system), are they going to be sent to prison & take up space? How can it take 10 days to decide whether a couple of tw@ts decided to cut down a tree or not? We're paying for this prosecution & I don't think there will be anymore 'copycat' crimes to find the need to make an example of them! 🤦‍♀️
A ‘different branch’ of the law, maybe?😉
 


Motogull

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Sep 16, 2005
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I reckon the 'guilty as charged' defendants will choose not to give evidence. If the jury acquit on this open and shut case, it should be end of jury trials.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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I reckon the 'guilty as charged' defendants will choose not to give evidence. If the jury acquit on this open and shut case, it should be end of jury trials.
I guess the jury do acquit it will be on the basis that they've seen and heard more evidence than you or I.

So no, it wouldn't be the end of jury trials
 






Brovion

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The tree felling that has taken place in the woods around Stanmer Park is tantamount to vandalism.
The contractors have far exceeded their remit and have cut down many healthy trees in addition to the trees suffering from Ash die-back. It is rumoured that they made around £60000 from selling the extra timber.
They have also left the area in a terrible mess, with unwanted branches lying all over the place, and deep ruts in the footpaths where they have used heavy machinery.
Yeah, it's exactly the same up in Hollingbury and Burstead woods; parts of it look like a cross between a battlefield and a new motorway construction site. (They also started cutting down a butterfly bank before they were stopped). All the ruts are now baked hard, and the footpaths (which the Council had upgraded a few years ago to make them more wheelchair-friendly) are now 'challenging' to put it mildly for wheelchairs and buggies. They've said they'll come and fix it ...
 


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