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Sven Goran 'I have my tounge up David Beckhams Arse' Eriksson



Pat McCrotch

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Cereal Killer said:
yes, Beckham can cross the ball and score free kicks, but Lennon is fast and has flair and can shoot, pass, cross, dribble etc.

Lennon = exciting football
Beckham = Dull football

Exciting football = good football
Dull Football = Bad football


you utter cock jockey.
 




graz126

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Goring Gull said:
The biggest problem with England is Sven doe snot pick 11 players that gel as a team - he's more intrested picking the Footballers who's who of stars rather than getting a team gelling together, but hey he's damned if does damned if he doesn't.

Truth is you cannot leave Beckham out, I think he will come good this time - Gerrard however is a major concern.


im wondering why you think gerrard is a major concern? i personally think he is the best player in the england squad.
 


Goring Gull

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graz126 said:
im wondering why you think gerrard is a major concern? i personally think he is the best player in the england squad.

For Liverpool fantastic but can lose his head and 90% of the time for England plays like a thicko, launching speculative passes into a black hole, chrging round fouling people and giving the ball away. He also doesn't seem to know where he's playing or what he is doing.......

Sven also needs to shoulder the blame as does not pick the best team but what the press etc see as the best 11 players hence they don't gel.
 
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Easy 10

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Goring Gull said:
He also doesn't seem to know where he's playing or what he is doing.......
Probably because he doesn't know himself.
Sven doesn't seem to know WHAT to do with him. Gerrard himself has said he's only played 45 minutes in his preferred position for England - the rest of the time, Sven will play him wide right, wide left, central with Lampard, holding, even at RIGHT BACK for fucks sake. The latest genius idea seems to be as an additional striker, for no more reason than, err, he banged in a couple of good goals in the Cup Final.

If Sven bothered to have a 30 second conversation with Rafa Benitez, he might get a clue how best to deploy Gerrard. But he won't for course. So we'll continue to see that misfiring Lampard/Gerrard combo in the middle of a 4-4-2, and once again we'll get found out by the first decent side we face.

Still, £4.5m a year, what does it matter ? S' a laugh innit.
 
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ali jenkins

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i would prefer england to play a 3-5-2 formation as i think it would suit our top players the best.

-----------------------------Robinson------------------------------

-----------Campbell----Ferdinand--------Terry-----------------

Beckham----------Carrick/Hargreaves--------------------Cole

---------------------Gerrard--------Lampard---------------------

------------------Crouch------Owen------------------------------

three of the best central defenders in England, Beckham and cole can both go foreward and defend. Carrick/Hargreaves (who playes week-in-week-out for byarn munich so cant be that bad) in the holding role which would give stevie g and lamps a free roll in the middle which they both do so well for their clubs and with rooney not going to be fit crouch and owen up front.
 


pornomagboy

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Cereal Killer said:
England coach Sven-Goran Eriksson says David Beckham will retain his place in the World Cup ahead of winger Aaron Lennon, who impressed against Belarus.
When asked who should play on the right Eriksson said: "Are you saying I should play Lennon instead of Beckham?

"Lennon does his damage on the right but Beckham also does his damage on the right. How many crosses does he put in?

"I think everybody agrees with the starting 11. I know the team and you would pick the same team."

England have two friendlies this week, against Hungary on Tuesday and Jamaica on Saturday, before they play their opening World Cup against Paraguay on 10 June.

Eriksson, who has never substituted or dropped Beckham, has said he will start both games with the team he expects to use in the World Cup opener against Paraguay.

"If Beckham is fit, if Frank Lampard is fit, if Steven Gerrard is fit and if Joe Cole is fit, they should start," added Eriksson.

"The fact is that all four midfielders are in great form and they are all in excellent condition.

"It's not like before Japan when Beckham was 70%, half-injured.

"They are all 100% fit. They all did the fitness tests and were much better than two years ago and there was a huge difference to four years ago."

Despite the question marks over Beckham's fitness four years ago, Eriksson insisted he was right to play the midfielder in the 2002 World Cup.

"In Japan, Beckham deserved to play even though he was not 100%. We did not have Lennon in Japan.

"I am sure Lennon could play as a second striker in the last 20 minutes. He would come on, take the ball and run."

f***ing KNOB END!!!!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry:

I hope McClaren has sense to play Lennon on the right and drop Beckham altogether and have Shaun Wright Phillips as backup right midfielder

wot you said about beckham, well i couldnt work it better my self he isnt a footballer he is a cleb he should be in eastenders for the ammount of acting he does:lolol:
 


Billy the Fish

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Re: Re: Sven Goran 'I have my tounge up David Beckhams Arse' Eriksson

pornomagboy said:
wot you said about beckham, well i couldnt work it better my self he isnt a footballer he is a cleb he should be in eastenders for the ammount of acting he does:lolol:
You are quite correct. After reading that I agree that you couldn't word it better. :dunce:
 




Turkey

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I thought Lennon was fantastic the other night but we as a nation tend to play a passing game and build the play up the field rather than giving the ball to a player and letting him take it all the way forward by himself. I believe the idea is that possession is really important at international level.

Lennon is a quality player but his strong point is not passing, it's running at players. Beckham's strength is passing, crossing, free-kicks so he'll be first choice every time.
 


CHAPPERS

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Only f***ing IDIOTS would drop a fit Beckham in favour of Aaron Lennon, as promising as he is. I've never understood why people think Beckham should be dropped. He's playing for one of the top club sides in the world in probably the best league in Europe talent wise, he's been a MASSIVE player for England over the last 8 years, he's f***ing CAPTAIN and a good one at that and he's the best dead ball player in the world.

Yeah, let's play Aaaron Lennon instead, after all he did rinse a Belarussian left back a few times.

Crikey.
 


blockhseagull

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David Beckham deserves to play, has been oustanding for Real and his other two rivals are someone who played a good 30 mins in a B international and someone who hasn't made the squad ?

No brainer i think.

Not sure why people knock the guy scored more goals in qualification that Rooney and best passer in the side
 




Les Biehn

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Turkey said:
I thought Lennon was fantastic the other night but we as a nation tend to play a passing game and build the play up the field rather than giving the ball to a player and letting him take it all the way forward by himself. I believe the idea is that possession is really important at international level.

Lennon is a quality player but his strong point is not passing, it's running at players. Beckham's strength is passing, crossing, free-kicks so he'll be first choice every time.

You think we are a passing nation? I have to disagree, I would say we are one of the worst teams out of the big guns for retaining possession.

I think we should play Beckham, but I think a lot of our play is root one.
 


caz99

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Half my problem with Beckham doubters is that they obviously dont watch him play for real. like someone said before has has been there best player for the past 2 years at least. perhaps you ought to catch a couple of games on la liga on saturday/sunday nights. there is NO ONE that can cross like him and I think anyone that would rather drop him is looney, no one can deny Lennon has talent but he shouldnt automatically play ahead of a senior more mature player.

people are quick to slate him cos they dont watch him week in and week out like our premiership players. THIS IS Beckhams world cup and I hope he has a cracking tournamont like many others.
 


Easy 10

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ChapmansThe Saviour said:
Only f***ing IDIOTS would drop a fit Beckham in favour of Aaron Lennon, as promising as he is. I've never understood why people think Beckham should be dropped. He's playing for one of the top club sides in the world in probably the best league in Europe talent wise, he's been a MASSIVE player for England over the last 8 years, he's f***ing CAPTAIN and a good one at that and he's the best dead ball player in the world.

Yeah, let's play Aaaron Lennon instead, after all he did rinse a Belarussian left back a few times.

Crikey.
Agree with all that except about him being captain - I don't think Beckham is a particularly good captain at all. However, he's still a definate starter on that right flank for sure.
 




Marshy

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Beckham is a definate starter at present.
2 seasons ago when SWP was banging them in for Man City and on Fire going past defenders etc, and Beckham was struggling in a poor Real Madrid side i wanted him out.

Not now though, times change.
 


Billy the Fish

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Easy 10 said:
Agree with all that except about him being captain - I don't think Beckham is a particularly good captain at all. However, he's still a definate starter on that right flank for sure.
Out of interest, in what way do you think he's been a bad captain? I personally think he's been the best in living memory and by far the best choice all the time he's a definate starter. The other players respect him, he leads by example and is an excellent ambassador for the FA, who else can do all the off field stuff as well as he does, and who else has shown as much passion on the pitch as he has over the last few years?
 


Easy 10

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Billy the Fish said:
Out of interest, in what way do you think he's been a bad captain? I personally think he's been the best in living memory and by far the best choice all the time he's a definate starter. The other players respect him, he leads by example and is an excellent ambassador for the FA, who else can do all the off field stuff as well as he does, and who else has shown as much passion on the pitch as he has over the last few years?
I think he's a fairly self-absorbed character who gets on with his own game rather than helping/encouraging/influencing others. The only time I've really seen him step in to a captains role was whan he was trying to calm Rooney down in that Northern Ireland game (and just got a mouthful in return). Other than that, I just don't see enough from him in terms of directing and helping those around him on the field, specially the younger players. Perhaps thats difficult as he can get isolated wide on the right.

He's a fine player, and I don't doubt his passion and pride at being England captain, but I don't believe he gives enough back to the team in his role as captain. Best in living memory ? So you'd put him above the likes of Bryan Robson and Terry Butcher ? Not for me.
 


Uncle Buck

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I think he's a fairly self-absorbed character who gets on with his own game rather than helping/encouraging/influencing others. The only time I've really seen him step in to a captains role was whan he was trying to calm Rooney down in that Northern Ireland game (and just got a mouthful in return). Other than that, I just don't see enough from him in terms of directing and helping those around him on the field, specially the younger players. Perhaps thats difficult as he can get isolated wide on the right.

He's a fine player, and I don't doubt his passion and pride at being England captain, but I don't believe he gives enough back to the team in his role as captain. Best in living memory ? So you'd put him above the likes of Bryan Robson and Terry Butcher ? Not for me.

Butcher was never really Captain, he used to fill in when Robson was injured (a regular occurance I know).

Beckham seems to be one of those that tries to Captain the side from what he does with the ball (leading by example if you like) rather than a shouter. I guess it is not really the English way not to have a Sarge Major type of player as Captain.
 




Easy 10

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Uncle Buck said:
Butcher was never really Captain, he used to fill in when Robson was injured (a regular occurance I know).

Beckham seems to be one of those that tries to Captain the side from what he does with the ball (leading by example if you like) rather than a shouter. I guess it is not really the English way not to have a Sarge Major type of player as Captain.
Leading by example isn't really doing anything over and above your normal game though is it ? You don't have to have an armband to be seen to be leading by example, thats just one small facet of being a captain. I think a captains role really comes into play when things are going against a team. Its the words of encouragement, dishing out a bollocking where its needed, directing and influencing the players around you. Cajoling the players, driving them on, infusing spirit and determination. Leading by example is PART of being a captain, but its not the sole factor.

One of the best captains I ever saw was Lothar Matthaus - he was a collossus in that German midfield, the beating heart of it. He'd literally DRIVE that team himself. Awesome player at his peak, and he got an extra 5-10% out of those around him as well.
 


Uncle Buck

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Leading by example isn't really doing anything over and above your normal game though is it ? You don't have to have an armband to be seen to be leading by example, thats just one small facet of being a captain. I think a captains role really comes into play when things are going against a team. Its the words of encouragement, dishing out a bollocking where its needed, directing and influencing the players around you. Cajoling the players, driving them on, infusing spirit and determination. Leading by example is PART of being a captain, but its not the sole factor.

One of the best captains I ever saw was Lothar Matthaus - he was a collossus in that German midfield, the beating heart of it. He'd literally DRIVE that team himself. Awesome player at his peak, and he got an extra 5-10% out of those around him as well.

But then for the Albion one of our most succesful Captain's in recent seasons was Paul Rogers and he was not a shouter, but more lead by example and had the respect of those around him. Something it seems that Beckham has.
 


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