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Supertramp are/were British!!!







I saw them at Worthing Assembly Halls in the early 70's, before they released
'Crime of The Century'.
I was hoping for a progressive rock band, but found them to be MOR "sappy" and weedy. It was amazing that they took off in a big way later, as I thought their hippy aproach was very outdated.

'Goodbye Stranger' was one of their better tunes, but they came across as a pale shadow of what Genesis were doing at that time - and even the latter were fairly weak, in retrospect.
 


northstandnorth

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Oct 13, 2003
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wot a twat nmh.(aka looney,twatford o dwayne et all)

supertramp had two song writers.... davis for the pop MOR stuff hodgeson?(long time ago and cant be arsed to dig out the albums to check) for the classics.

same song writing format as most groups with two main songwriters. paul macartney/dave gilmor/ davis for the granny pleasers.

john lennon/roger waters/hodgeson for the stuff that lasts.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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The Large One said:
Not according to their biog.

It said that Hodgson and Davies (who had recorded together with little commercial success in 1969) needed other to flesh out their work, and recruited the other three in the band from a trade mag ad in 1970. The drummer, who happened to be American, was working in Britain at the time.

Not saying that didn't happen but the album 'Supertramp' released in 1970 (according to the cover) has the band members listed as Richard Davis, Roger Hodgson, Richard Palmer and Robert Millar (percussion harmonica). The second album (Indelibly Stamped - Yep the one with the naked tatooed lady on the cover!) had Frank Farrell, Kevin Currie and Dave Winthrop replacing Palmer and Millar (Currie on Drums). This was released in 1971. These two albums were slightly over-indulgent but the second one had a track called 'Rosie Had Everything Planned' on it and I reckon(imho) this probably set the style for some of their future successes.

An online biography says - "They recruited ex-Alan Bown band members, saxophonist John Helliwell (b. 15 February 1945, Todmorden, Yorkshire, England) and bass player Dougie Thomson (b. 24 March 1951, Glasgow, Scotland) and from Bees Make Honey, drummer Bob C. Benberg (b. Robert Siebenberg)."
Siebenberg was born in California (31/10/1949).

I was wrong in my last post in that it was Mark Hart from Crowded House (not Neil Finn) who was at the 1997 Albert Hall giggs and recorded on their album that year.

But what the heck - a bit of clouded memory doesn't detract from the fact that they recorded some classic albums.
 


northstandnorth said:
wot a twat nmh.(aka looney,twatford o dwayne et all)

supertramp had two song writers.... davis for the pop MOR stuff hodgeson?(long time ago and cant be arsed to dig out the albums to check) for the classics.

same song writing format as most groups with two main songwriters. paul macartney/dave gilmor/ davis for the granny pleasers.

john lennon/roger waters/hodgeson for the stuff that lasts.

Well that told me.

Excellent gibberish :clap:
 




bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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dave the gaffer said:
I have seen Supertramp 7 times, from the first concert at the Dome I saw supported by Joan Armatradin, and then supported by Man ( a welsh band that were just noise!!!)

Crisis What Crisis is my favourite Album, Even in the Quietest Moments the worst.

Man were just noise ? They were a Welsh band (one of the very few at the time) and were reputed to be the British Allman Brothers. Don't buy that myself but they were very good for that time anyway.

I was never a Supertramp fan but they were a long way from being the most pretencious band of that era. That would go to somebody like ELP or Zeppelin. Having seen both at the Dome with months of each other the only memorable thing about ELP's performance was having the whole show stopped for fifteen minutes whilst Keith Emerson's grand piano was hoovered out after their Tarkus sparyed polestyrene balls into it. Zeppelin lasting memory was the highly self indulgent and boring 28 minute Jimmy Page solo plus and equally pointless 15 minute Jon Bonham drumsolo.

I didn't much care for the original punk as Johnny Rotten said at the end of the last original Sex Pistols concert 'How you ever felt conned'. Today's so called punk bands like Green Day and Blink 182 can at least play their instruments. However punk was IMHO nessesary thanks to the totally OTT performances of the pomp rock brigade.
 
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dougdeep

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bhaexpress said:
Man were just noise ? They were a Welsh band (one of the very few at the time) and were reputed to be the British Allman Brothers. Don't buy that myself but they were very good for that time anyway.

I saw Man many times and thought they were great. I have albums by them and by their sometime guitarist Deke Leonard. A very underated band. In the words of Ted Nugent "If it's too loud, your too old."
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Thought I was in BIG trouble yesterday when Dave The Gaffer came charging out of the undergrowth at me like a fully-grown bull rhino. :ohmy: Assumed he must have taken serious umbrage at me for suggesting that the best way for his ankle to get better soon was for the fella to lose a couple of stone. But, nope, DTG just wanted to upbraid me on my somewhat less-than-flattering review of the career of Supertramp :lolol:
 




bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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You're such a rotter Thomas , lovers of wimp rock everywhere are enraged by your unflattering comments. Supertramp were big in the US for one reason in particular, they were bland and bland works well in the US.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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bhaexpress said:
You're such a rotter Thomas , lovers of wimp rock everywhere are enraged by your unflattering comments. Supertramp were big in the US for one reason in particular, they were bland and bland works well in the US.

Indeed. That can be the only explanation for the likes of The Eagles ridiculous amount of success also. In fact, reckon our very own Eagles down the road at Croydump should incorporate Hotel California into their pre-match repertoire. AJ should be forced to come out every home game for the next - count 'em! - five years to the sappy strains of 'You Can Check Out Any Time You Like, But You Can Never Leave...' :D
 
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