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Sad but true.
Can you imagine how much cr4p he'd be getting of he had walked and we lost the test - and set the tone for losing the Ashes?
Stuart Broad - Should he have walked, or was he right to stand his ground?....
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Sad but true.
Can you imagine how much cr4p he'd be getting of he had walked and we lost the test - and set the tone for losing the Ashes?
vegster
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I have had no problem with Gilchrist or any other keeper appealing. When you are keeping and you hear a nick and or see a deflection you appeal, if the batsman has been turned by a delivery and there is a nick it could be bat, glove,pad or even clip the batsmans shirt but all keepers will appeal,even our very own.
KZNSeagull
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Bairstow didn't wait for the umpire to give him out. Broad should have walked.
Only mistake he made was hitting it, the real errors was the umpires and the aussies for using up their reviews on plainly stupid appeals . Makes up some way for the truly awful decisions yesterday.
The look on their sappy little faces was priceless.
The look on their sappy little faces was priceless.
melias shoes
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This is the Aussies we're talking about. Would they have walked. Not on your life. Umpire didn't give it so **** em. Typical Aussies though they will shout about about it but they introduced 'sportsmanship' into cricket. It's a bit like 'sledging' the opposition batsman. Again they invented it and it's great all the time they dish it out but can't handle it when they receive it. Stuff em I say.
mikeyjh
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End of - When did you last see a striker admitting offside, a prop admitting a dodgy bind, a tennis player a bad line call, it's pro sport.......
Gullflyinghigh
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That just means that it was the best thing to do in terms of the match, not that it was the right thing to do.
BRIGHT ON Q
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Stand your ground for an edge,but that must have come off the middle of the bat!
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Tooting Gull
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I think whether the Aussies would have walked or not is irrelevant, a complete red herring morally and ethically.
Broad cheated. He is a cheat. You can dress it up any way you like (and don't worry, plenty of media and ex-players will make excuses for him tomorrow, be apologists, come up with phrases like 'it's the modern way' and go very soft on the issue).
Some, hopefully, will be a bit braver including I imagine Paul Hayward. Ultimately you take responsibility for your own actions. It could have been Broad's 'Di Canio' moment. Instead it has soured any England win, and they have totally forfeited any right to ever have a go at Australian sportsmanship ever again.
The piss-poor umpiring, again, is a separate issue. That has nothing to do with cheating. They are mistakes.
Broad cheated. He is a cheat. You can dress it up any way you like (and don't worry, plenty of media and ex-players will make excuses for him tomorrow, be apologists, come up with phrases like 'it's the modern way' and go very soft on the issue).
Some, hopefully, will be a bit braver including I imagine Paul Hayward. Ultimately you take responsibility for your own actions. It could have been Broad's 'Di Canio' moment. Instead it has soured any England win, and they have totally forfeited any right to ever have a go at Australian sportsmanship ever again.
The piss-poor umpiring, again, is a separate issue. That has nothing to do with cheating. They are mistakes.
Scoffers
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He should have walked - just because the Aussies wouldn't walk in the same scenario doesn't make it right in my book. He knew he hit it, as did everyone within a 100 mile radius of Trent Bridge, except the Umpire, it seems.
Take a moment, if you will, to imagine how Broad would have reacted if he had been the bowler, OMG, I reckon he would have torn the place apart.
Take a moment, if you will, to imagine how Broad would have reacted if he had been the bowler, OMG, I reckon he would have torn the place apart.
Was it Bairstow's 'Di Canio moment' then? He walked without being given out, and it will be forgotten about, this time tomorrow.
It really is a shame that this is how things are, but in the context of high stakes professional sport, Broad is absolutely entitled to leave it to the umpire to decide.
I completely take granny w's point above, and my views in club cricket remain noble - I'd always walk. Professional cricket is just not the same, sad though that may be.
Baron Pepperpot
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Legend says he wouldn't even walk when he was bowled !
Boroseagull
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Tough! The Aussies had the chance yesterday to withdraw their appeal when Trott was incorrectly given out LBW, when even the standing umpire was bemused by the reversal. Add to that Agar's 'stumping' by MP, Root walking when no edge was shown on 'hot spot', I make that 3-1 to the Aussies! As they say in Australia....TUP....[toughen up princess].
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One aspect that nobody seems to have mentioned, here, is the referral system.
Yes that has been put in place to protect them game, but it now is a strategy to be used within the game.
Had the Aussies not 'wasted' their 2 referrals they would have got Broad out.
Having referrals and all the other tech does take the sport further away from it's gentlemanly heritage.
Yes that has been put in place to protect them game, but it now is a strategy to be used within the game.
Had the Aussies not 'wasted' their 2 referrals they would have got Broad out.
Having referrals and all the other tech does take the sport further away from it's gentlemanly heritage.
Seagullbluewhite
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Not out till you have been given out
nomoremithras4me
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Who cares?
What he said with bells on! Where's the couldn't give 2 flacks option?
brakespear
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don't care who we are playing, he should have walked.