Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
All good fiscal points. But I'd still rather pay into the state than give handouts. The state relies on our handouts.
Raising taxes by 14% would put more people into poverty.
All good fiscal points. But I'd still rather pay into the state than give handouts. The state relies on our handouts.
Setting up a direct debit is not hard. The problem with it is it gives people the notion that they do their bit. When in fact, these issues our society faces, are only growing.
But you are 'doing your bit' when you set up a direct debit. Surely?
Raising taxes by 14% would put more people into poverty.
That 'bit' isn't really a lot though, is it?
I see that people are not aware that most charity funding is from taxes, there are substantial grants and payments to various charities from various government departments. i dont recall how much but its over half of charity sector funding and over £10bn.
Charities exist because people want to do something, want to do more that the state or business can provide, they want to run services that are niche or not really viable on other basis (i.e. rely heavily on volunteers to provide labour). there's a handful that probably should be part of state funded operations (RNLI springs to mind), but mostly its optional things, a small group may think cause A is important, but vast majority of the population dont think about it.
We give charity money because it's an easy option. As a society, we walk past homeless people in freezing, dangerous conditions everyday.
and what do you suggest we do, invite them home with us ? or give to a charity that tries to help them.
Setting up a direct debit is not hard. The problem with it is it gives people the notion that they do their bit. When in fact, these issues our society faces, are only growing.
Raising taxes by 14% would put more people into poverty.
I feel the same way about the RNLI. Countless lives have been saved by the lifeboats.
there are plenty of people who could pay considerably more tax without even noticing it........plenty.....!! but they are never the ones to get the hit ....it's always the masses......wealthy people pay accountants to hide money and avoid tax......i have fully comp medical insurance for my whole family , i am putting 2 kids through private school , i have fully comp car insurance , fully comp home and contents insurance and fully comp income protection and death cover.......i can't afford to give to charity.
Key criteria for charities for me;
1 People over animals.
I am a die hard tory !
I completely agree that some charities should be funded by the government. In particular, those that focus on saving lives like RNLI and Air Ambulance. The NHS do carry out a lot of medical research, including into cancer, so the idea that the government don't support the fight against cancer is ridiculous.
Interesting that a "die hard tory" is advocating higher taxation and less choice.
It is our money, we pay taxes and are still asked to shelve out our hard earnt. Are we not a forward enough thinking country to do away with having to rely on people's good will? Things like cancer shouldn't be a charity donation, it should be a right to care.
Your comment here didn't outright say that the government doesn't fund cancer research, but implied that it relies on charity donations. Yes, the charity donations help fund additional research which should ultimately help find a cure faster, but the research will still continue without the charitable donations.
So why did you only quote that and not the bit after? Are you Murdoch in disguise?