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[Albion] Should Gross start against Man Utd?
- Thread starter Rambo
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No. We need pace to counter them. Much as I love him, playing Pascal would be like trying to compete in Cowes week using an oil tanker.
Moshe Gariani
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- Mar 10, 2005
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I've got no idea.
I don't know his current physical and mental fitness or that of the other players who might take his place - but I guess that can be ignored and the question approached with an "all other things equal" caveat.
But I've still got no idea if Gross should play against Man Utd tomorrow.
What I think I know about Pascal Gross is that he is a technically excellent footballer with a well earned reputation for making telling contributions to help his teams win top flight football matches. He also seems to provide a good balance between "attack" and "defence" that I quite like and could be appropriate for playing Man Utd at home.
But, we have lots of other good players and lots of options with our formation and tactical approach.
I really, really like our manager and will support whatever decision he makes.
I don't know his current physical and mental fitness or that of the other players who might take his place - but I guess that can be ignored and the question approached with an "all other things equal" caveat.
But I've still got no idea if Gross should play against Man Utd tomorrow.
What I think I know about Pascal Gross is that he is a technically excellent footballer with a well earned reputation for making telling contributions to help his teams win top flight football matches. He also seems to provide a good balance between "attack" and "defence" that I quite like and could be appropriate for playing Man Utd at home.
But, we have lots of other good players and lots of options with our formation and tactical approach.
I really, really like our manager and will support whatever decision he makes.
Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
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Defensively we have always been solid but in the games since the restart what has really struck me is how much better Potters system looks with some pace in the side so I would stick with the youngsters at the moment and keep Groß on the bench as an option if we need to tighten up.
That said with Potter we all know any lineup predictions are futile!
That said with Potter we all know any lineup predictions are futile!
Bold Seagull
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Think I’ll let Mr Potter decide. 
If he plays him, it will be because he thinks he is the best person to help us get something from the game. At present I don’t think any of the attacking players apart from Maupay can be confident of starting.
Question is whether Connolly starts as a front 2 again or not? Pretty sure Gross doesn’t feature in that scenario. 1 up top though, and Gross may be perfect for stopping Fernandes dropping deep to get the ball, plus moving the ball either side for us.
Looking forward to seeing who GP does line up.
If he plays him, it will be because he thinks he is the best person to help us get something from the game. At present I don’t think any of the attacking players apart from Maupay can be confident of starting.
Question is whether Connolly starts as a front 2 again or not? Pretty sure Gross doesn’t feature in that scenario. 1 up top though, and Gross may be perfect for stopping Fernandes dropping deep to get the ball, plus moving the ball either side for us.
Looking forward to seeing who GP does line up.
Yes and no.
The team was crying out for pace.
But it and all sides still need a locksmith to open things up.
As said early doors in this thread, I have no idea if Groß should start until I know the 10 other players.
Groß shouldn't be playing with all the other tortoises.
Groß must play as the lone tortoise.
Then his selection ought to be juggled for all points in between.
Dr. No
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Think I’ll let Mr Potter decide.
If he plays him, it will be because he thinks he is the best person to help us get something from the game. At present I don’t think any of the attacking players apart from Maupay can be confident of starting.
Question is whether Connolly starts as a front 2 again or not? Pretty sure Gross doesn’t feature in that scenario. 1 up top though, and Gross may be perfect for stopping Fernandes dropping deep to get the ball, plus moving the ball either side for us.
Looking forward to seeing who GP does line up.
Agree. I think it's likely (with all the usually GP caveats) that it's Gross or Connolly.
If it's a front 3, I think Gross main competitor for the right hand slot place is Ali J. And Pascal is ahead. (on the left it's tighter with Alexis, Solly and Trossard going for that slot)
If it's a 4-2-2-2, I think he's behind Mooy, in the advanced midfield positions and I can't see them starting together.
In any case in the times where there are 5 subs, he's bound to be on the pitch a fair bit before the end of the season. It's now less important whether he starts. If he comes on after 55 mins, he's still getting decent time on the pitch
Man Utd are lethal on the break.
For that reason, I’d like to maybe see us concede possession to them and see how well that can break us down. We’ll need pace and directness on the break so hopefully the likes of Maupay, Troß, Connolly, Lamptey & Bernardo will get the gig tomorrow.
My 11 would be:
—————————Ryan————————-
—-Duffy—————Dunk————-Burn—-
Lamptey—Bissouma—-Pröpper—Bernardo
—————————Troß————————-
————Maupay————-Connolly———-
For that reason, I’d like to maybe see us concede possession to them and see how well that can break us down. We’ll need pace and directness on the break so hopefully the likes of Maupay, Troß, Connolly, Lamptey & Bernardo will get the gig tomorrow.
My 11 would be:
—————————Ryan————————-
—-Duffy—————Dunk————-Burn—-
Lamptey—Bissouma—-Pröpper—Bernardo
—————————Troß————————-
————Maupay————-Connolly———-
You see, I genuinely don’t recall him getting beaten that often.
Whereas Burn has an unfortunate habit of getting beaten by a ball on his inside......
However, hoping Burn will score soon....
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Bold Seagull
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I’ve done West Ham away for consecutive seasons and Antonio has torn him to shreds both times. Bernardo’s not appeared since West Ham away I think? And to be honest, given how reliable Burn is I’m not surprised.
nicko31
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Start with him, maybe go for the Mac on 60 mins
Badger Boy
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- Jan 28, 2016
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Play him in his strongest position = Yes.
Play him anywhere else = No.
Play him anywhere else = No.
Arsenal got behind BDB a fair few times, particularly in the first half, the difference being they were proper poor once they'd done the hard work.
I think he will start since he is able to play 60+ minutes, which is obviously not the case with Mooy, Macallister and Trossard who all looked pretty dead after 45 in the games last week.
I think this eleven will start: Ryan - Schelotto, Dunk, Webster, Burn - Gross, Bissouma, Pröpper, Mooy - Connolly, Maupay
I think this eleven will start: Ryan - Schelotto, Dunk, Webster, Burn - Gross, Bissouma, Pröpper, Mooy - Connolly, Maupay
I do wonder sometimes if you are a spoof account.
Wasn’t Antonio more up against Montoya?
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Bold Seagull
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Last season Antonio only came on as sub and was out and out on the right wing. This season he was in more of a central role but I thought he did the damage coming in from their right, so was Bernardo’s man much of the time. Potter may have his own reasons for preferring Burn, but that was Bernardos chance to cement a place. I think I’m right in saying we’ve conceded 3 twice this year against opposition around or below us and both times Bernardo has started? Not down to him, but perhaps Potter feels it does unsettle the defence.
Such a relief to be discussing left backs!
