Rules question re ref on Saturday

[Yoda]

What the Law also states however, is that the referee must make every effort not to interfere with the flow of the game and so, his adjudicator at the match may tell him to reposition himself better so that he doesn't find himself in a similar position.

Which is not what happened as he was far too concerned about the balloon than the game.

 

[keaton]

The ref was quite clearly in the way. Why make the pass? I thought Ince played well overall but everyone seems to be overlooking the fact he was definitely rushing things and overhitting passes quite regularly. He had plenty of space to move into before making a pass, and it nearly cost us a goal.

From I was sat (and I may be remembering it wrong) I was pretty much in line with Ward and Ince and the pass was on, but the ref seemed to jump away from a ballon and into the path of the ball

 

[shaolinpunk]

The ref was running into the area that Ince was moving to as he went to play the pass

 

[Acker79]

I suspect we would have gotten one of the two penalty claims we had in the game.

In the first half, Barnes was hauled to the ground as a long ball came in but the flag was up for offside (on buckley?). The ref would have ruled that Buckley(?) couldn't have been offside before the foul on Barnes occurred because he wasn't involved in the play until he received the ball (as opposed to him being offside because he was in that position when the ball was played) and given us a penalty. If the Lino talked him out of that, he would have given us a penalty in the second half (though I don't remember the specifics, I just remember there being a penalty claim in the second half and remarking we would have got it had ngog score from the ref's through ball).

 

[skipper734]

in other words you don't know

Er. I don't think they have bladders inside them nowadays Glas. They are much lighter, and move about all over the place, oh and they don't weigh 10 times as much when they get wet. Footy nowadays is for softies.

 

[Superphil]

If it had been a goal, perhaps Dougie would have told his players to let our players "walk" a goal in to make it 1-1.

Oh, maybe not, after the abuse he was getting from some Brighton fans, I guess he may have decided not to bother.

 

[Goldstone1976]

Er. I don't think they have bladders inside them nowadays Glas. They are much lighter, and move about all over the place, oh and they don't weigh 10 times as much when they get wet. Footy nowadays is for softies.

D'oh. Yep, you're right of course.

 

[Daffy Duck]

Maybe if the ref hadn't been so obsessed with balloons he would have been in a more suitable position.

 

[Gazwag]

I was wondering that too, but then i remembered the inflatable ball incident when sunderland played liverpool a few years back, and that goal stood.

I was watching something the other day and this came up and apparantly this goal should not have stood

 

[dougdeep]

I believe a goal was scored off a dog once in the distant past. Any creature or item will do.

 

[keaton]

I was watching something the other day and this came up and apparantly this goal should not have stood

The beach ball was an outside agent (as the balloon would have been). The ref isn't

 

[Arthur]

Here is one for you budding referees which happened in a game I was watching the other week.

Team A were awarded a free kick and they took it quickly (with the referees approval I might add). Player from Team B hadn't retreated 10 yards and tried to block the ball after it had been kicked. The referee booked the player from Team B and got the Team A player to re-take the kick. Where should the re-taken kick be taken from? From the original spot or where the ball came into contact with the Team B player?

In the game it was the former which I always thought was the ruling. However several people who were committee members of one of the teams in question were suggesting the referee got it wrong and it should have taken where the second offence took place.

 

[keaton]

I recommend the You Are The Refs book for Christmas presents this year. There is also a You Are The Umpire which is also excellent

 

[Hove Seagull]

OK so what if
a player hits the ball towards the goal and it looks most likely to go in but half way there the ball bursts and the inner part goes into the goal and the outer goes over the bar
what would that be?

The whole of the ball has to cross the whole of the line.

 

[Postman Pat]

OK so what if
a player hits the ball towards the goal and it looks most likely to go in but half way there the ball bursts and the inner part goes into the goal and the outer goes over the bar
what would that be?

In theory once the ball bursts it is no longer suitable for use. The referee must stop play and re-start with a drop ball on the edge of the six yard box. No goal.

 

[glasfryn]

In theory once the ball bursts it is no longer suitable for use. The referee must stop play and re-start with a drop ball on the edge of the six yard box. No goal.

the answer of coarse as Skip pointed out it would not happen now

but when the ball did have an interior part and split into two pieces one going in and the other over the bar = a bloody miracle

 

[Springal]

Here is one for you budding referees which happened in a game I was watching the other week.

Team A were awarded a free kick and they took it quickly (with the referees approval I might add). Player from Team B hadn't retreated 10 yards and tried to block the ball after it had been kicked. The referee booked the player from Team B and got the Team A player to re-take the kick. Where should the re-taken kick be taken from? From the original spot or where the ball came into contact with the Team B player?

In the game it was the former which I always thought was the ruling. However several people who were committee members of one of the teams in question were suggesting the referee got it wrong and it should have taken where the second offence took place.

Did the player deliberately block it ? Or did it just hit him?

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

OK so what if
a player hits the ball towards the goal and it looks most likely to go in but half way there the ball bursts and the inner part goes into the goal and the outer goes over the bar
what would that be?

Keep taking the tablets.

 

[The Large One]

Did the player deliberately block it ? Or did it just hit him?

I don't think that's relevant.

 

[Icy Gull]

I recommend the You Are The Refs book for Christmas presents this year. There is also a You Are The Umpire which is also excellent

I recommend just posting any questions about refs and umpires on NSC